***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Can you please post on the new treatment guidelines.....

No sugar, lots of alcohol and moderate cocaine use!!!!

I'm gonna need you to define "moderate", please

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

See big packers bought beef from cattle lots and farmers over a period of weeks/months before they are sent to the packer. These are done through contracts so they have their supply. The low prices you see on the actual cows or pigs won't be reflected until later.

I understand how it works , beef is how I make a living and I have no sympathy for Packers . It’s a monopoly to the highest degree he’ll I ain’t got the time or the want to explaining how bad the producers get hosed

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I started looking in early March and there was nothing. nuts





Yeah I will check out Craigslist, Facebook Market didn't have anything real close that I would trust.

Also check if you have a Thrifty Nickel paper around there, along with any other kind of rag you see that you can grab for free that's normally in a grocery, or convenience store by the entrance.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bwana

I think I still have about 30 pounds of ground beef, a bunch of steaks I cut myself and probably about the same amount of chicken as you do. I also have some pork steaks and about a dozen fat racks of baby backs.

You were talking about processing a cow earlier. I remember helping my grandpa process his own beef when i was little. It's not that difficult, but damn it's alot of work.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by O.city

You were talking about processing a cow earlier. I remember helping my grandpa process his own beef when i was little. It's not that difficult, but damn it's alot of work.

It is, but under the circumstances, probably worth it. It will make the price per pound almost too hard to pass up.

[Lzen]

Sheesh, I just looked through the local Craigslist. No freezers out of 80 listings.

Boy, I'm glad I kept the one deep freeze. We had one in the basement and one in the garage at the old place. A year or two ago I got rid of my second one because I didn't need it anymore (hadn't bought a side of beef in a few years). Turned off the one in the basement and put it in the storage unit until we moved in November. It's nearly full now and I'm going in on a side of beef with my in-laws next month.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'm gonna need you to define "moderate", please

7 a day

[Lzen]

Can anyone find a reliable source that gives the numbers for top 5 or 10 causes of death so far in 2020? I'm having a hard time finding that kind of info.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Sheesh, I just looked through the local Craigslist. No freezers out of 80 listings.

Boy, I'm glad I kept the one deep freeze. We had one in the basement and one in the garage at the old place. A year or two ago I got rid of my second one because I didn't need it anymore (hadn't bought a side of beef in a few years). Turned off the one in the basement and put it in the storage unit until we moved in November. It's nearly full now and I'm going in on a side of beef with my in-laws next month.

Don't need one either but I decided to take a look for shits and giggles. Facebook marketplace, none, Craigslist, none around here, the closest one is in Helena, which is 230 miles.

Also check estate sales and outfits that sell used, and or rebuilt appliances.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Sheesh, I just looked through the local Craigslist. No freezers out of 80 listings.

Boy, I'm glad I kept the one deep freeze. We had one in the basement and one in the garage at the old place. A year or two ago I got rid of my second one because I didn't need it anymore (hadn't bought a side of beef in a few years). Turned off the one in the basement and put it in the storage unit until we moved in November. It's nearly full now and I'm going in on a side of beef with my in-laws next month.

I ordered one that they said was in stock, put in a meat order and two hours later they canceled the freezer because they couldn't find it, yeah right.
So I put it in a freezer the in laws don't use

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

7 a day

7 lines?
7 grams?
7 8-balls?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

7 lines?
7 grams?
7 8-balls?

Every one

[TLO]

Had our 2nd death in our county today. A man in his 40s. Says he had underlying health conditions, but who really knows what that means. Very sad.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Had our 2nd death in our county today. A man in his 40s. Says he had underlying health conditions, but who really knows what that means. Very sad.

Is it morbid of me to want to know more details?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Is it morbid of me to want to know more details?

If you are trying to find out what he was wearing , yes maybe a little.