***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Really? No...


I thought you only talked about it not being available (which is what I really disagreed with, I had already mentioned it was 5 a lb at the store)

Then i looked back and saw i was wrong, edited my post to acknowledge that fact. And you still had to open your mouth. But I'm the sandy twat?

Yep.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Yeah I ordered one 6 weeks ago through menards and it's supposed to get there the 15th

I had to run to lowe's to get something, but i walked thru the freezer section and there wasn't one to be found. Guy said they had sold out and weren't sure when they'd get more.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, my neighbors would like that. We have a nice little neighborhood system going. We live on about 10 acres but have 5 houses fairly close that we call the "strangeline neighborhood" no clue who or where that come from.

Anyway, one of them has chickens so they supply the neighborhood with eggs, i run the neighborhood garden so i do all the veggies and fruit. Looking like I'll have some nice corn and squash this year, peas are coming along nicely too.

Guy down the hill has cattle so he takes care of the beef for everyone. Kinda nice we all just pitch in and make shit go. Like a little commune. It's weird cause they're all in their 70's, then there is my wife and i in our 30s.

I've been on grocery duty for them all the past month since they're confined to the house so they've been baking/cooking and bringing shit to our house. My kids are gonna be fattened up.

Sweet setup.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Damn!

Glad my wife stocked up last week. We have 14lbs of ground beef and six lbs of chicken

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yep.

I think your posts in this thread disagree.

It's you

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, my neighbors would like that. We have a nice little neighborhood system going. We live on about 10 acres but have 5 houses fairly close that we call the "strangeline neighborhood" no clue who or where that come from.

Anyway, one of them has chickens so they supply the neighborhood with eggs, i run the neighborhood garden so i do all the veggies and fruit. Looking like I'll have some nice corn and squash this year, peas are coming along nicely too.

Guy down the hill has cattle so he takes care of the beef for everyone. Kinda nice we all just pitch in and make shit go. Like a little commune. It's weird cause they're all in their 70's, then there is my wife and i in our 30s.

I've been on grocery duty for them all the past month since they're confined to the house so they've been baking/cooking and bringing shit to our house. My kids are gonna be fattened up.

I've done the grocery duty for several of my long time customers quite a bit lately.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I think your posts in this thread disagree.

It's you

Thank you very little

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Glad my wife stocked up last week. We have 14lbs of ground beef and six lbs of chicken

I think I still have about 30 pounds of ground beef, a bunch of steaks I cut myself and probably about the same amount of chicken as you do. I also have some pork steaks and about a dozen fat racks of baby backs.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, you can't find them anywhere.

I found a restaurant that was selling a big glass one that i thought about buying but if it ****ed up it would be hell to fix.

Mom came across a good deal on a chest one so i just grabbed it.

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Yeah I ordered one 6 weeks ago through menards and it's supposed to get there the 15th

Did they just have a massive run on these or what? It is crazy. EDIT: Never mind a quick google search says YES. ****

Originally Posted by Bwana

Have you tried Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace?

I haven't looked on Craigslist but I did on Facebook Market.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Did they just have a massive run on these or what? It is crazy.

I'd read somewhere a lot of retail stores had run out of chest freezers weeks ago.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I haven't looked on Craigslist but I did on Facebook Market.

Probably worth a shot.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Sounds like Covid to me.

Pretty common with any kind of bacterial pneumonia.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bwana

I think I still have about 30 pounds of ground beef, a bunch of steaks I cut myself and probably about the same amount of chicken as you do. I also have some pork steaks and about a dozen fat racks of baby backs.

I feel good about my stockpile.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I'd read somewhere a lot of retail stores had run out of chest freezers weeks ago.

I started looking in early March and there was nothing. nuts

Originally Posted by Bwana

Probably worth a shot.

Yeah I will check out Craigslist, Facebook Market didn't have anything real close that I would trust.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Pretty common with any kind of bacterial pneumonia.

Can you please post on the new treatment guidelines.....

No sugar, lots of alcohol and moderate cocaine use!!!!