***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by O.city

I bought a full pig and a full cow. I may have food for a bit.

As long as you don't have some kind of a power failure in the heat of the summer for days, you're good.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

We buy a half a beef but still had quite a bit left his spring... Should have bought another and had it on the calendar, but I should have enough for a few more months.

My buddy offered me 2 heifers. I don't have room or i'd have taken it. It's vacusealed i figure i'll keep for a while.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Where are you?

Mid Missouri. He's a small little shop.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bwana

As long as you don't have some kind of a power failure in the heat of the summer for days, you're good.

My parents came across a good deal on deep freezes so i got a 21 cubic foot one to go along with a 14 (I think it is) that I've got in the garage. If the power goes out....we may all be ****ed.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Mid Missouri. He's a small little shop.

He in your town?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by O.city

My buddy offered me 2 heifers. I don't have room or i'd have taken it. It's vacusealed i figure i'll keep for a while.

My body shop buddy has a couple that will be or are ready. I think I'm taking one of those, especially if my new chest freezer gets here. Got another buddy with pigs. I texted him earlier inquiring.

I think that's the way to go.

[Donger]

Is anyone else doing home delivery for groceries? It apparently gets you in the supply line a few days out (if you want) so with some planning, it's no big deal.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Pretty sure that's not what you said.

You said it couldn't be found IIRC.


It's there. In quantity. Just going to be expensive.

Edit: while you DID say "you'd be hard pressed to find it "which wasn't and isn't true

You also did say the price was going through the roof

Yes I did and you boasted about how you called your guy and it only went up .15 pound...but whatever

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Pants

Here, let me just inject you with 1mL of this local anesthetic. Whoops, sorry. That was supposed to be 0.1mL. Enjoy half your face being paralyzed for the rest of your life.

Harsh.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by O.city

He in your town?

A little south. Maybe a quarter of the way between my shop and yours.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes I did and you boasted about how you called your guy and it only went up .15 pound...but whatever

Did you even read that post

And it had only gone up .15.

And thanks to that conversation I bought 20lbs that day lol.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

A little south. Maybe a quarter of the way between my shop and yours.

Nice.

I'm having mine done down close to where i grew up so I gotta go on a meat mission here pretty soon.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You'd be hard pressed to find ground beef right now and the price is going through the roof. Pork not so much. But if you can find it, get it.

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Did you even read that post

And it had only gone up .15.

And thanks to that conversation I bought 20lbs that day lol.

Like I said, I told you it was coming but again, whatever

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else doing home delivery for groceries? It apparently gets you in the supply line a few days out (if you want) so with some planning, it's no big deal.

We're doing deliveries from the local chain and Aldis. Its usually around 3 days out. I supplement with mini store runs for things that pop up or were overlooked.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Nice.

I'm having mine done down close to where i grew up so I gotta go on a meat mission here pretty soon.

My guy usually comes to me. Lol. He will swing through when he gets done this afternoon.

He knows if I go down there I spend way too much money, so I tell him what I'm looking for and he gets it together. That way I'm not just grabbing 10 of everything. It helps me and his stock. He's bringing me some huge cajun marinated chicken beasts he makes, some honey beef sticks, and I told him go through the steaks and pick some good ones.