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Old 03-09-2024, 09:42 PM  
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:27 PM   #271
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What if there’s a more reasonable, Chiefs-sized bonus, like $25 or 30M?

That’s where I think we see this land. That 95m over the first three years is going to include 10-12 million in cap charges against the last two years…

By time we get to the last two years we could be looking at a 300 million cap where 12 million isn't horrible to absorb.
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:30 PM   #272
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What if there’s a more reasonable, Chiefs-sized bonus, like $25 or 30M?

That’s where I think we see this land. That 95m over the first three years is going to include 10-12 million in cap charges against the last two years…
Gotta make for some pretty stout cap hits in years 1-2-3 in that case.

I mean a $30 million signing bonus would require salaries of $17.5, $22.5 and $25 million over the first 3 years.

So $23.5, $28.5 and $31 million in those seasons.

I kinda like my approach better. More risk but more short-term flexibility.
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:31 PM   #273
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Probably a tiny bit more than I wanted to pay but I'm happy that Jones is back. Trade Sneed and get this offseason rolling.
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:31 PM   #274
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Exactly how I’ve felt.

If you could in a vaccum have this deal, or Christian Wilkins for 23 million/yr I think I’m taking Wilkins. Lose a little in the pass rush, but gain a lot in the run D. Jones is still the better player obviously. But I don’t know about 10 a year better.
On the surface I don’t disagree with that, but there’s something important to be said about continuity, not to mention the fact that the Jones is the primary leader of the defense.

For that price I would’ve been fine if they signed him or passed. I definitely didn’t think they were going that high to begin with, but I’ll trust the direction they went.
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:42 PM   #275
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By time we get to the last two years we could be looking at a 300 million cap where 12 million isn't horrible to absorb.
Lots of talk that the cap will be going up 30-40m each year the next 3-4. New tv deals/gambling money and international money is kicking in. This is the first year of it hitting the cap. BV mentioned it 2 years ago.
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:43 PM   #276
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Does this contract take us out of the running for a decent free agent WR?
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:44 PM   #277
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Does this contract take us out of the running for a decent free agent WR?

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Old 03-10-2024, 12:45 PM   #278
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Obviously there are large risks with this deal, but these are some aspects I keep thinking about...

1. I would hate to see Chris Jones on another team, terrorizing Mahomes in a Playoff game like what he did to Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and Brock Purdy the last couple years during super important moments of the biggest games.

2. At least you are not paying top dollar for a dude from another team, like they did with Frank Clark or Sammy Watkins or Jawaan Taylor. Chris Jones has already done unbelievable stuff to help this team win 3 championships.

3. You were already paying Chris Jones $20M per year. So he was already an expensive player. It's not like we are jumping from a 7th round rookie contract to suddenly paying the dude $32M per year. That's what the Niners are gonna be doing with Brock Purdy when he goes from less than $1M per year to $60M per year, lol
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:45 PM   #279
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Not if there's a $50-60 million signing bonus.

You're talking about accelerating $40+ million onto the cap next season. That injury would have to literally be of the "Never going to play again" variety. An Alex Smith style compound fracture.

And in that event, our cap is STILL royally ****ed.
No way his signing bonus was that big.
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:48 PM   #280
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:52 PM   #282
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Gotta make for some pretty stout cap hits in years 1-2-3 in that case.

I mean a $30 million signing bonus would require salaries of $17.5, $22.5 and $25 million over the first 3 years.

So $23.5, $28.5 and $31 million in those seasons.

I kinda like my approach better. More risk but more short-term flexibility.

I like the flexibility but have a hard time believing the Chiefs wrote a bonus that big. More likely it is reasonably sized now with another restructure point next year or the year after.

If you bonus our $30M at signing, and then another $12M in 2025, and then another $9M in 2026, you bonus out $51M and defer $24M in bonus proration to the last two years.

Six/one half dozen/another.
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On a scale of 1 to insufferable how crazy is the freakout Soren Petro is having right now, after guaranteeing up and down that Chris Jones was gone for like three years now and especially in the last month
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Old 03-10-2024, 01:11 PM   #284
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Does this contract take us out of the running for a decent free agent WR?
If they are going to run a "workout" with Mahomes at some college campus again, I think Mahomes showed with Rice that he has some scouting ability for the team. Mahomes working out with some of these guys increases our ability to draft a WR rather than have to sign a free agent. That might put us in line to sign a free agent OT instead.
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