***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

I guess it's bad for kids...

https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief.../07/flu-update

Interesting info. Thanks.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You know I would bet some were. My Son’s pediatrician told us she has treated more kids for pneumonia this year than she ever has. Again, what a coinkydink.

Yes quite a coincidence since kids are the age group that has been overwhelming our hospitals with covid 19.

Quite a coincidence too that nobody noticed all the tent cities hospitals had to set up as a massive influx of patients that each spent two three weeks in intensive care.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Yes quite a coincidence since kids are the age group that has been overwhelming our hospitals with covid 19.

Quite a coincidence too that nobody noticed all the tent cities hospitals had to set up as a massive influx of patients that each spent two three weeks in intensive care.

Yeah all those tents that aren't being used save a few in NYC?

Yeah, spare me your sarcasm. Last month CA was begging people to come out of retirement to help the hospitals only to end up laying people off instead.

But it seems you got it all figured out.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Wait what? I’m 7 days out from my known exposure (last day worked) and have been at home this entire time. My test came back positive today. I get tested again Sunday. I must have 2 negative tests in a row to go back to work.

Hamas, what’s likelihood of my positive result not being accurate? Does that happen like all these false negatives?

Did you have any symptoms?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Did you have any symptoms?

I had none and still have no symptoms outside of a very MINOR sore throat that feels very similar to what it feels like with my allergies (Right now is high allergy time in Phoenix, lots of blooming). So honestly, no symptoms.

I've been getting up early and working out, Walking 2-3 miles every other day and swimming in the afternoon.

I plan to lift weights in my garage at 5:30 tomorrow morning.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Still better than LA.



It takes 45 minutes or more each way to drop off and pick up my Middle Schooler, whose school is 4.6 miles from my home.

I can't imagine that. When I taught in Iowa- I met 6 cars in 30 miles. Usually the same 6.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I had none and still have no symptoms outside of a very MINOR sore throat that feels very similar to what it feels like with my allergies (Right now is high allergy time in Phoenix, lots of blooming). So honestly, no symptoms.

I've been getting up early and working out, Walking 2-3 miles every other day and swimming in the afternoon.

I plan to lift weights in my garage at 5:30 tomorrow morning.

Youre probably fine but with the asymptomatic bullshit who knows. My job had 4 people "exposed to it" was the wording. Then the next week 5 more before they shut us down that was late March. We have thousands in our building and they wouldnt say what department.

I'm treating this like HPV I've probably been exposed to it so I try and limit my interactions.

The opening phases are a nice idea without better testing and limiting those who have underlying conditions I feel like were just going back to square 1.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I tested positive. I’m 7 days quarantined from my exposure at work.

I have no symptoms with my positive test. Hope that continues.

Sorry to hear that. Glad you’re okay. For real, let me know if you need anything, even if it’s just to talk.

Also, don’t ****ing die on me and leave me with only ****ing edave and Scho to watch games with.

[Titty Meat]

I'm glad you're feeling ok Lew.

The sad thing is theres people like Peter who will continue to compare this to the cold and people will act less responsible and pass this on to people where there bodies response will be much worse.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

And neither is a vaccine.

60 years since the human coronavirus family was discovered and there has not been a single effective/scalable vaccine created for any type of coronavirus.

We (humanity) have never had to try hard.

This is different.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Pants

We (humanity) have never had to try hard.

This is different.

Just the cold

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'm glad you're feeling ok Lew.

The sad thing is theres people like Peter who will continue to compare this to the cold and people will act less responsible and pass this on to people where there bodies response will be much worse.

Go **** yourself. You're going back to work and your parents I am sure will be happy to have you out of the ****ing house for a while.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Go **** yourself. You're going back to work and your parents I am sure will be happy to have you out of the ****ing house for a while.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

[petegz28]

Things are starting to get dicey in CA...

Protests mark growing unrest with California stay-home order
On the state’s northern end, rural Modoc County, home to about 9,000 people, became the first to defy the state’s shutdown orders.

The county is “moving forward with our reopening plan,” said Heather Hadwick, the county’s deputy director of emergency services, who added that the county has no reported COVID-19 cases.

Hadwick said the county had not heard from the governor about its reopening plan, but she asserted it aligns with Newsom’s indicators for reopening. Schools were not opening Friday, but it was an option for districts that can accommodate preventative measures, she said.

“We are utilizing his guidance of those plans, and we have zero cases,” she wrote. “Our residents were moving forward with or without us. We really needed to create guidelines for them so that they could do this in the safest way possible.”

https://apnews.com/32d5564a7774aae7c2b45b850d1000f5