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Couch-Potato · 10-10-2023, 08:45 PM

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

ForeverChiefs58 · 04-15-2024, 02:29 AM

Also what round do you think Terique Owens from Springfield gets drafted? I saw he met with chiefs

Dunerdr · 04-15-2024, 06:00 AM

I think I've been sleeping on Roman Wilson a little. For me at least i've kind of over looked he and Polk.

ToxSocks · 04-15-2024, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Also what round do you think Terique Owens from Springfield gets drafted? I saw he met with chiefs

Undrafted imo.

poolboy · 04-15-2024, 03:05 PM

Nick Wright changed his Chiefs pick to Franklin

staylor26 · 04-16-2024, 05:26 PM

All Round 1 WRs to Average <85.0 YPG in Best NCAA Season (2014-2024)

John Ross (81.4)
Breshad Perriman (80.3)
Jalen Reagor (80.0)
Quentin Johnston (76.2)
Kelvin Benjamin (72.2)
Calvin Ridley (69.7)
Phillip Dorsett (67.0)
Henry Ruggs (62.0)
Adonai Mitchell (60.4)
/end of list
— Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) April 16, 2024

**The Franchise** · 04-16-2024, 05:48 PM

Woof.

staylor26 · 04-16-2024, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Woof.

I'd still take him at 32 with little hesitation, but the production concerns are legitimate.

**The Franchise** · 04-16-2024, 06:01 PM

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I'd still take him at 32 with little hesitation, but the production concerns are legitimate.

Oh for sure. That group is rough.

Couch-Potato · 04-16-2024, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

All Round 1 WRs to Average <85.0 YPG in Best NCAA Season (2014-2024)

John Ross (81.4)
Breshad Perriman (80.3)
Jalen Reagor (80.0)
Quentin Johnston (76.2)
Kelvin Benjamin (72.2)
Calvin Ridley (69.7)
Phillip Dorsett (67.0)
Henry Ruggs (62.0)
Adonai Mitchell (60.4)
/end of list
— Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) April 16, 2024

Ok... sooooo what is he getting at here?

That's not the best endorsement, is he suggesting Mitchell will be a bust because he played well in college?

Seems like a meaningless stat he posted.

Dante84 · 04-16-2024, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Ok... sooooo what is he getting at here?

That's not the best endorsement, is he suggesting Mitchell will be a bust because he played well in college?

Seems like a meaningless stat he posted.

"<85" means "less than 85 yards"

He averaged 60 yards per game, which was worse than everyone in that list, and they were all busts. Just a data point, but certainly a valid point to consider.

Dante84 · 04-16-2024, 06:19 PM

Well, it’s not just that he looks the least like a Round 1-pick of any Round 1 WR in a decade. He’s also in the bottom-left of every graph I’ve seen this year that deals with any efficiency/production metric we know to be predictive (e.g. worst in class by YAC/R)

So yeah, to…
— Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) April 16, 2024

Couch-Potato · 04-16-2024, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

"<85" means "less than 85 yards"

He averaged 60 yards per game, which was worse than everyone in that list, and they were all busts. Just a data point, but certainly a valid point to consider.

Ahhh I see! Gotcha!

Couch-Potato · 04-16-2024, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Well, it’s not just that he looks the least like a Round 1-pick of any Round 1 WR in a decade. He’s also in the bottom-left of every graph I’ve seen this year that deals with any efficiency/production metric we know to be predictive (e.g. worst in class by YAC/R)

So yeah, to…
— Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) April 16, 2024

Yeah, AD is pretty much the only WR in this class that I don't like.

Just feel like he's getting way too much attention for little production, and his game speed looks slow to me.

Couch-Potato · 04-16-2024, 07:07 PM

Ultimately, I think we need to take a WR with big-play home run potential.

BTJ
Worthy
Franklin
Legette

These types of prospects are more attractive to me than say a Ladd McConkey or AD Mitchell.

We have great possession guys already in Kelce and Rice.

kccrow · 04-16-2024, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

"<85" means "less than 85 yards"

He averaged 60 yards per game, which was worse than everyone in that list, and they were all busts. Just a data point, but certainly a valid point to consider.

Yeah. I talked about not being a 1k WR in college at any point a while back when I was arguing with MM back and forth. 85 per is 1100 at 13g and 1200 at 14g. That ups the bar even a bit more.

The 1st Round WR class should be Harrison Jr, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas Jr, and Franklin. You know Worthy is going to get in there because of speed even if he's kind of teetering on that edge. All these other guys getting 1st round buzz just don't have 1st round-caliber production and it matters in my opinion.

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Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	2024 WR Class Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like? 1st - 2nd RD WR Targets: Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6 Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3 Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5 Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41 Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29 Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35 Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22 Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48 Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42 Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38 Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46 Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31 This entire* class is tall WTF? Last edited by Couch-Potato; 03-24-2024 at 01:08 PM..
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