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12-30-2019, 12:07 PM | #241 | |
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I don't think it's ever been made Canon that the only way to have Force Powers is to inherit them through a parent. On the contrary, Finn's Force Sensitivity seems to stem from a belief in The Force, much like Luke in A New Hope. Personally, I liked RJ's "Democratization" of The Force. |
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12-30-2019, 12:10 PM | #242 | |
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Vader was a few meters from Luke in A New Hope and had no idea that he was his son and was actively trying to kill him as he was flying over the Death Star. The Jedi Council routinely met with Palpatine in his chambers and had no idea he was a Sith Lord, including Yoda. I don't think that Force powers have been clearly defined as of yet. |
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12-30-2019, 12:13 PM | #243 |
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Hell, add to that, we're still finding out what it means to be a Mandalorian!
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12-30-2019, 12:28 PM | #244 | |
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12-30-2019, 12:45 PM | #245 | |
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Palpatine knew of his son and didn't murder him until he refused to turn over his grandaughter. So the idea that he would just "kill" his family members for no reason has no basis at this point in time. The fact of the matter is that there is very little information available about the Sith and to just say "I don't find it believable" is an opinion, not a fact. I personally don't find it "believable" that a man that rules a galaxy doesn't have any concubines. He IS a man, at least given his description in the Star War data bank and as far as we know, there's no rule preventing Sith from bearing children or having attachments or sex. I've provided a few examples of powerful Force users that have no idea that their children are present, right in front of them. Snoke/Sidious had no idea who "The Girl" was in TFA, nor did he realize that Kylo Ren and Rey Palpatine were a "Force Dyad" until he had them in his grip. To me, it's fairly evident that neither the Sith nor the Jedi or Omniscient. |
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12-30-2019, 01:37 PM | #246 |
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I'm just saying that parenting isn't a common trait among Sith. They're typically very selfish and cruel, obsessing over power and distrustful of everyone. Not a lot of family tales involving Sith.
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12-30-2019, 01:40 PM | #247 |
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12-30-2019, 03:28 PM | #248 |
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I'm just calling it as I see it.
I really couldn't care less about Finn. I don't even know what purpose his character serves and if he was completely wiped from this sequel trilogy, would it even matter? Would anything change? From my perspective, the answer is no. |
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12-30-2019, 03:31 PM | #249 | |
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12-30-2019, 04:28 PM | #250 |
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All the mental gymnastics are kind of pointless. The only real reason for it is that JJ decided that was how he was going to retcon her origin.
I think it's kind of silly and any number of alternatives would have been better for me. I still like the idea of Satine keeping a child secret from Obi-wan, creating potential for a Kenobi grandchild. Or Ezra and Sabine. Or pretty much any two characters not named Palpatine. Abrams went for too many moments that were cool from the perspective of a 40+ year old who'd lived their entire lives fantasizing about the SW universe, moments that made no sense in the context of a new movie trilogy with new characters. Too much was tied to the original trilogy, and not much really survives even a cursory examination of the plot, themes, events or motivations of the final trilogy or the characters within. That's the main issue I have with episode 9 (and 8 and 7...). But maybe it wasn't ever possible to really do it right. |
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12-30-2019, 05:59 PM | #251 |
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If clay didn’t see sex in the movie, it didn’t happen.
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12-30-2019, 07:38 PM | #252 |
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12-30-2019, 09:03 PM | #253 |
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12-30-2019, 09:17 PM | #255 |
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Lucas always said the main character in all the stories was Darth Vader. He was totally absent in these last 3 tho and I’d make the argument Palpatine is now the stories main character
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