***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

What makes you think NYC is more healthy than other locations in the United States?

Originally Posted by BWillie

As with most large metro areas, their residents are usually more health conscious, less overweight, and also just have a younger population.

https://wallethub.com/edu/healthiest-cities/31072/

Meanwhile New Yorkers are dying at 3 times the rate as anyone else.....

[petegz28]

Or lets put it this way, it takes 48 states to make the numbers NY\NJ have. I am gonna go ahead and say the hypothesis of them being more healthy thus at less risk than everyone else in the country is not applicable because the numbers simply don’t back that up.....at all

[O.city]

So would anyone say it’s over estimated if you say we’re under counting cases by 15-20?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

So would anyone say it’s over estimated if you say we’re under counting cases by 15-20?

I think we are most certainly undercounting cases. At the same time I think we are also over counting the deaths caused by Covid but I understand why.

That being said I think you have millions of people who have or have had this which would change the models drastically.

Or lets put some actual logic behind it. We keep hearing this is much more contagious than the flu, right? We have 10’s of millions of people get the flu each season. Why would we assume less than a million have this virus or have had it?

[petegz28]

New cases overall took a jump again today to make a new high

[KCUnited]

IL tested 16K people today

[Demonpenz]

People straight up sleep on Post Malone. You wouldn't believe the amount of work he put in to where he got. He played every type of music in every shithole possible.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

IL tested 16K people today

I think we obviously can expect a rise in new cases as more tests are done but I hope that doesn’t spark another round of packing

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I think we are most certainly undercounting cases. At the same time I think we are also over counting the deaths caused by Covid but I understand why.

That being said I think you have millions of people who have or have had this which would change the models drastically.

Or lets put some actual logic behind it. We keep hearing this is much more contagious than the flu, right? We have 10’s of millions of people get the flu each season. Why would we assume less than a million have this virus or have had it?

If we’re under counting by 16 that would theoretically make the IFR .03.

That’s what I was saying earlier, aomething seems off with my math

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

People straight up sleep on Post Malone. You wouldn't believe the amount of work he put in to where he got. He played every type of music in every shithole possible.

And apparently got a tattoo on his face to commemorate each and every one.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we’re under counting by 16 that would theoretically make the IFR .03.

That’s what I was saying earlier, aomething seems off with my math

Why does something seem off?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Why does something seem off?

That wouldn’t explain what the hell has happened in New York or northern Italy

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

That wouldn’t explain what the hell has happened in New York or northern Italy

I’ve said all along those places are anomalies but perhaps there is a reason. Viral load? I mean NYC is so freaking dense that you literally cannot get away from the virus anywhere you go.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Well this is interesting:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...242223821.html

But health experts are concerned the statewide total of confirmed cases is significantly undercounted because Florida reports only the number of Floridians waiting to hear test results from state labs, not private ones — and private labs are completing more than 90% of state tests.

The results of thousands of pending tests from private labs have taken as long as two weeks to be added to the state’s official count. The state’s website does not say its figures exclude the vast majority of pending tests for the novel coronavirus.

Not surprised at all.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

People straight up sleep on Post Malone. You wouldn't believe the amount of work he put in to where he got. He played every type of music in every shithole possible.

I’m a fan. Dudes talented.