***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by loochy

Not that all of the virus will be gone by 6 months, but it will start to feel normal enough that the freakouts will stop and prices will start to move back up

Oh yeah,

I mean I agree with that, I was of the camp of let the damn thing run it course and just be cautious.

But like I said yesterday the cat is out of the bag now.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by loochy

I'd like to see some communications from people that actually have the sickness right now. I'd like to see how many feel like death, how many are slightly sick, etc. I keep reading "oh, most people only experience minor symptoms." Is minor like a common cold or is minor like the full blown flu without hospitalization?

I have family and friends with it. Four people now.

They all report the same basic thing — started feeling crummy/run down, had a high fever that spiked suddenly (39-40 C), took a bunch of Tylenol, slept a day, got a minor sore throat and after a few days it was done.

They are all relatively young/in good shape.

I have read stories from people who went thru the above and then got much worse as well as people who nearly died while a spouse got the sniffles. Seems like there may be two versions but don’t know.

[SAUTO]

this really sucks, especially having a disabled daughter who has always had a compromised immune and respiratory system.

super stressful especially with other kids who go to school and both mom and dad working with the public...

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by loochy

I know. That's not what I'm requesting. I'm requesting some kind of daily logs from infected people (of all sorts).

Here's the first guy in the US to have it:



My family had something strikingly similar a few weeks later, but I'm not about to say it was COVID-19, it could have been the flu. None of us went to the doctor and we are all recovered now.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

this really sucks, especially having a disabled daughter who has always had a compromised immune and respiratory system.

super stressful especially with other kids who go to school and both mom and dad working with the public...

Dude I forgot about that. Stay safe. Let us know down here if you need anything, more than happy to bring it up to you.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Can't believe this has happened. How the **** does a virus cause this much chaos in this day and age with all of our technology?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Dude I forgot about that. Stay safe. Let us know down here if you need anything, more than happy to bring it up to you.

i really appreciate that buddy.

momma is having a tough time right now worried about it, especially with what we went through a couple months ago...****ing sucks

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Can't believe this has happened. How the **** does a virus cause this much chaos in this day and age with all of our technology?

Because people are stupid. ;-)

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

i really appreciate that buddy.

momma is having a tough time right now worried about it, especially with what we went through a couple months ago...****ing sucks

Yeah, I knew you had some shit going with how scarce you were round these parts and the group text.

Good luck man. Like I said, you need anything just get in touch.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Here's the first guy in the US to have it:



My family had something strikingly similar a few weeks later, but I'm not about to say it was COVID-19, it could have been the flu. None of us went to the doctor and we are all recovered now.

He shit out his nose for two days? That IS terrifying.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Can't believe this has happened. How the **** does a virus cause this much chaos in this day and age with all of our technology?

I’m sure the Martians were thinking the same thing...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Every medical professional in this field is saying that millions are going to be infected. We only have a couple of hundred right now due to us being 3-4 weeks behind in testing. There are probably millions already infected,


There is still no reason to panic. We have all been sick. Sucks for awhile but even the worse ones we have got, we got better in a week. The only at risk population seems to be the elderly and those whose health is already compromised. We have 70 million citizens over 60 years old.We need to take this deadly serious around our elderly family members.

There are consequences for almost everyone if our healthcare resources are overwhelmed.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Here's the first guy in the US to have it:

My family had something strikingly similar a few weeks later, but I'm not about to say it was COVID-19, it could have been the flu. None of us went to the doctor and we are all recovered now.

I wonder how many people have gotten it, thought it was just the flu or a bad cold, and went on with their lives?

I guess we should hope for a lot since every non-reported case brings the mortality rate down...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by patteeu

There are consequences for almost everyone if our healthcare resources are overwhelmed.

yeah, he's dumb.

[KChiefs1]

Meanwhile....
https://youtu.be/LXWVYoBluT4