***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[LTL]

I know this isn’t much but it might be something. I talked to an ex coworker that’s a respiratory therapist as well and last week they said they gave the plasma from a recovered covid patient to 3 patients that were at deaths door and a week later all of them are off the vent and doing well. They said they are doing this in conjunction with Mayo.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

That's as good of an explanation as I've come up with. We're about to be guinea pigs for Missouri's "box in" strategy. Hope it works!

It's confirmed. They're about to test 3000 people that work at this processing plant in St. Joe. This should be interesting.

The fact they are going to roll out 3000 tests in a couple days is pretty impressive though. They expect to have all the results by Monday.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Sorry for my lack of info, that was just from the site Daface had posted, showing "when it's save to ease social distancing".

I haven't seen anything on officially easing restrictions, besides elective surgeries coming back on May 1st.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/3007723001/

Peak for AZ listed at May 22 now. Mostly due to absolutely shit testing in this state.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Peak for AZ listed at May 22 now. Mostly due to absolutely shit testing in this state.

That makes 0 sense to me. So because testing was slow or something that manufactures a peak at a later time? This whole "peak" thing to me is kinda crap. Just because people weren't getting tested does that mean they weren't sick with this and can't be sick with this until you test for it?

I just can't seem to get this I guess. It starts in WA then we hear NY and then as if it were some kind of wave going back across the country everyones "peak" was 2 weeks from some day after NY.

Now, if Ks was on lock down the entire time NY was why is it the peak in KS has to be later? And if that's the case why didn't KS lock down 2 weeks later?

I think it gets pretty simple at this point. It's a 2 part question...

Are your hospitals being overrun?
How many people in your city, county, state are dying from this?

This whole thing of modeling bell curves based off of testing seems to be stupid which is probably why the models all break within 24 hours of being updated.

[JakeLV]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Good news for those with asthma. So far no evidence of co-morbidity.
Asthma Is Absent Among Top Covid-19 Risk Factors, Early Data Shows https://nyti.ms/2wNMs5g

My two year old is too young to be diagnosed with asthma, but I’ve spent a night at the hospital doing breathing treatments because she couldn’t breathe, on top of wheezing and has a long lasting cough after every cold.

This makes me cautiously optimistic/borderline happy

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That makes 0 sense to me. So because testing was slow or something that manufactures a peak at a later time? This whole "peak" thing to me is kinda crap. Just because people weren't getting tested does that mean they weren't sick with this and can't be sick with this until you test for it?

I just can't seem to get this I guess. It starts in WA then we hear NY and then as if it were some kind of wave going back across the country everyones "peak" was 2 weeks from some day after NY.

Now, if Ks was on lock down the entire time NY was why is it the peak in KS has to be later? And if that's the case why didn't KS lock down 2 weeks later?

I think it gets pretty simple at this point. It's a 2 part question...

Are your hospitals being overrun?
How many people in your city, county, state are dying from this?

This whole thing of modeling bell curves based off of testing seems to be stupid which is probably why the models all break within 24 hours of being updated.

And lest we forget, the testing has been shit for accuracy everywhere on the globe

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by TLO

Where'd BRC go? I haven't heard any ventilator talk in days.

Sounds like vents are now out.

Ventsbebad,org

[petegz28]

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Lol.

You are in such denial if you believe that. **** out of here with that bs. You've been consistent with downplaying the threat this CoronaVirus has to people's lives.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol.

You are in such denial if you believe that. **** out of here with that. You've been consistent with downplaying the threat this CoronaVirus has to people's lives.

Get lost you ****ing jack off

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol.

You are in such denial if you believe that. **** out of here with that. You've been consistent with downplaying the threat this CoronaVirus has to people's lives.

Holy shit, have you read any of your posts? You're worse than CNN.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Holy shit, have you read any of your posts? You're worse than CNN.

I'm pretty sure I read my posts considering that I edit them almost every single time.

Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion, so it's all good.

All I do is post articles that I think will interest people here. I've also consistently said the economy will come back eventually and more recently that it is time to open the country back up --- slowly.

If that makes me worse than CNN then so be it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Sorry for my lack of info, that was just from the site Daface had posted, showing "when it's save to ease social distancing".

I haven't seen anything on officially easing restrictions, besides elective surgeries coming back on May 1st.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/3007723001/

No apologies necessary. I was just freaking out for a second thinking about being stuck in MO much longer.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Get lost you ****ing jack off

Are you claiming that you haven't downplayed this?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

No apologies necessary. I was just freaking out for a second thinking about being stuck in MO much longer.

Where you headed?