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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Ebolapox · 10-03-2011, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Wait a minute....KU is known for its academics?

that's what I was wondering...

mnchiefsguy · 10-03-2011, 06:38 PM

Starting to see some tweets about a possible WVU announcement for the SEC tomorrow....anyone worried about them stealing Mizzou's spot?

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-03-2011, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Starting to see some tweets about a possible WVU announcement for the SEC tomorrow....anyone worried about them stealing Mizzou's spot?

No, we don't want WVU.

mnchiefsguy · 10-03-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No, we don't want WVU.

I would think Mizzou would be a better choice, but the WVU tweets appear to be gaining some steam, saying announcements tomorrow.

Hopefully the only announcement tomorrow is the one in which the curators authorize Deaton to change conferences.

Mr. Laz · 10-03-2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Wait a minute....KU is known for its academics?

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1

that's what I was wondering...

College National Rank

Kansas
CCAP - 22
USNWR - 38

Missouri
CCAP - 13
USNWR - 42

KU programs ranked in the top 30 among publics nationally are:

1. City Management and Urban Policy (Master)
1. Special Education (Master/Doctorate)
2. Community Health (Master/Doctorate)
2. Occupational Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
3. Paleontology (Doctorate)
3. Public Management Administration (Master)
4. Public Affairs (Master)
4. Speech-Language-Pathology (Master)
7. Audiology (Doctorate)
9. Nursing-Midwifery (Master)
9. Petroleum Engineering (Master/Doctorate)
9. Public Finance & Budgeting (Master)
10. School of Education (Master/Doctorate)
11. Social Work (Master)
12. Music (Master)
12. Physical Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
13. Clinical Child Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Clinical Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Pharmacy (PharmD)
21. Psychology (Doctorate)
22. Healthcare Management (Master)
23. Drama/Theatre (Master)
24. History (Doctorate)
25. Nursing-Anesthesia (Master)
26. Fine Arts (Master)
28. Nursing (Master)
30. Biological Sciences (Doctorate)
30. Political Science (Doctorate)

**Saul Good** · 10-03-2011, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

I only know what the Commissioner of the Big XII says.

In that case, I'll sell you some courtside seats for the 2012 Big XII tournament in Kemper Arena at a hefty discount off of face value.

KChiefs1 · 10-03-2011, 07:50 PM

Credible Tigerboard poster(mubobby) posted this:

The SEC is on the docket for tomorrow. Strongly opposed by some members in the admin. However, there is a faction that will get this done. Most of the academics are opposed due to the fact of the financial support the football program will need to remain competitive in the SEC. The new revenues will need to be dumped directly back into the football program, and the academics already dont like how much we are spending in this arena or how much GP is making. Football staff is firmly on board and leading charge. Alden is on board. Deaton sides with the academic faction. Per my source, there is enough leverage in the pro SEC faction to make the move. Deaton was working feverishly to get concessions that would appease the pro SEC faction. Not attainable. Texas wont budge. No fear of litigation, and "buyout" fees are already lined up per boosters.

All signs point SEC unless Deaton can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and at this point looks highly unlikely. Intention will be clear after BOC meeting.

tk13 · 10-03-2011, 07:52 PM

The Pac 12 (or any other conference) couldn't get Texas to budge an inch, I don't know why anyone in the Big XII thinks they can do better.

mnchiefsguy · 10-03-2011, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Credible Tigerboard poster(mubobby) posted this:

The SEC is on the docket for tomorrow. Strongly opposed by some members in the admin. However, there is a faction that will get this done. Most of the academics are opposed due to the fact of the financial support the football program will need to remain competitive in the SEC. The new revenues will need to be dumped directly back into the football program, and the academics already dont like how much we are spending in this arena or how much GP is making. Football staff is firmly on board and leading charge. Alden is on board. Deaton sides with the academic faction. Per my source, there is enough leverage in the pro SEC faction to make the move. Deaton was working feverishly to get concessions that would appease the pro SEC faction. Not attainable. Texas wont budge. No fear of litigation, and "buyout" fees are already lined up per boosters.

All signs point SEC unless Deaton can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and at this point looks highly unlikely. Intention will be clear after BOC meeting.

Wow...best news I have heard today. If this is the case, Deaton should be immediately terminated from his contract for being so foolish and opposing a move to the SEC.

mnchiefsguy · 10-03-2011, 07:54 PM

Question is...if Deaton is opposed to the move, and the curators vote for him to look at other conferences, could he decide on his own to not apply to the SEC and stay in the Big XII?

Jerm · 10-03-2011, 07:56 PM

If we pass up on going to the SEC and stay in the Big XII, the amount of hate I have for Brady Deaton will be unfathomable.

**ChiTown** · 10-03-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

College National Rank

Kansas
CCAP - 22
USNWR - 38

Missouri
CCAP - 13
USNWR - 42

KU programs ranked in the top 30 among publics nationally are:

1. City Management and Urban Policy (Master)
1. Special Education (Master/Doctorate)
2. Community Health (Master/Doctorate)
2. Occupational Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
3. Paleontology (Doctorate)
3. Public Management Administration (Master)
4. Public Affairs (Master)
4. Speech-Language-Pathology (Master)
7. Audiology (Doctorate)
9. Nursing-Midwifery (Master)
9. Petroleum Engineering (Master/Doctorate)
9. Public Finance & Budgeting (Master)
10. School of Education (Master/Doctorate)
11. Social Work (Master)
12. Music (Master)
12. Physical Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
13. Clinical Child Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Clinical Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Pharmacy (PharmD)
21. Psychology (Doctorate)
22. Healthcare Management (Master)
23. Drama/Theatre (Master)
24. History (Doctorate)
25. Nursing-Anesthesia (Master)
26. Fine Arts (Master)
28. Nursing (Master)
30. Biological Sciences (Doctorate)
30. Political Science (Doctorate)

I find all this talk hilarious.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-03-2011, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No, we don't want WVU.

LOL

WilliamTheIrish · 10-04-2011, 06:27 AM

Hialrious stuff from goemaw: Just to get this thread back onto the twitter universe.

Braincase · 10-04-2011, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I find all this talk hilarious.

BioMechanical Engineering is on the rise...

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! KChiefs1's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri	Credible Tigerboard poster(mubobby) posted this: The SEC is on the docket for tomorrow. Strongly opposed by some members in the admin. However, there is a faction that will get this done. Most of the academics are opposed due to the fact of the financial support the football program will need to remain competitive in the SEC. The new revenues will need to be dumped directly back into the football program, and the academics already dont like how much we are spending in this arena or how much GP is making. Football staff is firmly on board and leading charge. Alden is on board. Deaton sides with the academic faction. Per my source, there is enough leverage in the pro SEC faction to make the move. Deaton was working feverishly to get concessions that would appease the pro SEC faction. Not attainable. Texas wont budge. No fear of litigation, and "buyout" fees are already lined up per boosters. All signs point SEC unless Deaton can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and at this point looks highly unlikely. Intention will be clear after BOC meeting.
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