***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Is the fact they want you to wear a mask the answer.

You will have to ask others.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by eDave

Yea, I'm starting to get dirtly looks for not wearing a mask. It's starting to piss me off.

Most of the people I see at the store or out in public aren’t wearing one. Most of the people I see wearing are the millienial/gen-z hipsters and older people. I have yet to wear one and don’t plan on doing it in the future.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by srvy

Yeah, I have the boots covered but afraid my wife either goodwill' ed or trashed my Stetson long ago.

I saw on the news a family rode up to McDonald's on horseback in full western wear with bandana masks.

Nice, I have never done that, yet.

[limested]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

Won’t catch me wearing a mask and if one person says something about me bringing my kids into a store with me I’m going to run my mouth.

You are one tough SoB. 🙄

[KCUnited]

Was at the liquor store last week with my mask on and ol girl asked me to take it off to check my id. No joke. Gone with a neutral color bandana to not put myself at more risk than the virus.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Spott

Most of the people I see at the store or out in public aren’t wearing one. Most of the people I see wearing are the millienial/gen-z hipsters and older people. I have yet to wear one and don’t plan on doing it in the future.

We haven’t had the mask order here in Ontario, see the odd older ladies wearing masks mostly.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Mr KC ChiefsFan88 may be a bit raw in his approach

But while all of us who are quoting statistics to support whatever stand we have, he sort of hits a home run

After this silly shit is over, maybe more folks will wake up to the fact if you are fat, out of shape, do dick all to have some fitness, you could die before decent people who care about health

Dont be fat, lazy. smoke, drink all manner of shit, do pot.

Or do it but be aware you will die first

That's being a little ignorant. Pretty sure people are already know being overweight isn't good for their health. Obesity is a disease just like addiction is.

Obesity Is Now Considered a Disease

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/o...red-a-disease/

[eDave]

Broadway star Nick Cordero will have his leg amputated amid coronavirus battle

Cordero tested positive for COVID-19 after two false-negative results.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...212954036.html

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Monticore

We haven’t had the mask order here in Ontario, see the odd older ladies wearing masks mostly.

Yeah I bet only 20% of the people had them on when I was at the grocery store yesterday and no one had one on when I was at Ace Hardware today. I will say this though, people were keeping their distance from each other.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah I bet only 20% of the people had them on when I was at the grocery store yesterday and no one had one on when I was at Ace Hardware today. I will say this though, people were keeping their distance from each other.

It's mandatory to have a mask on in PA when you go inside businesses now.

[TLO]

So how were the overall numbers compared to yesterday?

[eDave]

Speaking of obesity, Lizzo is on Global Citizen now. Hurry.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

So how were the overall numbers compared to yesterday?

29,057 new cases. 1,867 new deaths. Compared to 32,165 and 2,528 yesterday.

A "good" day.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That's being a little ignorant. Pretty sure people are already know being overweight isn't good for their health. Obesity is a disease just like addiction is.

Obesity Is Now Considered a Disease

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/o...red-a-disease/

I will be sure to tell my obese spina bifida patient to do more cardio and to stop skipping leg days and while he is at to get off social assistance and apply for those roofing jobs i saw posted.

Overly dramatic I know but I’m bored.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by limested

You are one tough SoB. ��

Thanks. It’s not really anyone’s business as to why people don’t wear a mask or why someone brings their kids into a store.