This might not end well with Chris Jones

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Perhaps the bliss of a Super Bowl cured some of the issues, but in my talks during the postseason, there was some clear dissension between Chiefs and Chris Jones’ camp. Without a long-term deal, I just don’t see this going well. Tag helps create time... but won’t create goodwill.

— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) March 16, 2020

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

I'd offer Jones a $95 million contract
5 years at an average of $19 million per, with $50 million guaranteed.

When are you offering that? 2 years ago?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

I don't know that he has all the 'inside info', but based on all the HB/Harris back and forth, it sounds like Harris' agent reached out to the Chiefs to see if 'hey, you interested in my client' and the Chiefs responded something to the likes of 'maybe, but we gotta get CJ (and PMII) figured out before we can do anything with anyone else'.

Just speculation on my part, but I could see something like that happening.

Harris said the Chiefs just didn’t have cap space for him and were focused on Mahomes and Jones

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by BossChief

When are you offering that? 2 years ago?

$7 million more guaranteed money than Frank Clark. Hell, guarantee more.

Keep the overall hit lower, but offer Jones more guaranteed money.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Ummm, Frank Clark's deal had $63 million in guaranteed money.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...fl-draft-picks

You okay with giving Jones $70 million in guaranteed money??

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Ummm, Frank Clark's deal had $63 million in guaranteed money.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...fl-draft-picks

You okay with giving Jones $70 million in guaranteed money??

Yes without a doubt

[Chief Northman]

Sorry for the confusion.

I meant that the guaranteed $50 million is on top of his tag money ($16 million plus, working out to well over $60 million guaranteed - so I guess that works out to just a few million more guaranteed than Clark's deal).

Regardless. Offer Jones more guaranteed money. If that is near $70 million on a 5 year term, then so be it.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

I don't know that he has all the 'inside info', but based on all the HB/Harris back and forth, it sounds like Harris' agent reached out to the Chiefs to see if 'hey, you interested in my client' and the Chiefs responded something to the likes of 'maybe, but we gotta get CJ (and PMII) figured out before we can do anything with anyone else'.

Just speculation on my part, but I could see something like that happening.

Probably more like "No we are not interested, we don't have the cap space."

[tyton75]

Is Sammy Watkins and his enormous cap hit still on the roster?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by tyton75

Is Sammy Watkins and his enormous cap hit still on the roster?

Yep

[Kiimo]

I expect a reworking of that deal similar to what they did with Clark

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I expect a reworking of that deal similar to what they did with Clark

This is his last year, so you can't just rework it. Either the contract is extended under new terms, he takes a pay cut for this one year, or he's simply released. There aren't contract years available to rework it the way we did with Clark.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

This is his last year, so you can't just rework it. Either the contract is extended under new terms, he takes a pay cut for this one year, or he's simply released. There aren't contract years available to rework it the way we did with Clark.

Either extension or outright release.

Nobody is trading for him for one year at $14 million, and the Chiefs accrue $7 million in dead money.

[New World Order]

That would be some serious cap voodoo if we extend Jones and Sammy

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Either extension or outright release.

Nobody is trading for him for one year at $14 million, and the Chiefs accrue $7 million in dead money.

Extension seems most likely to me.

Correct my logic if I’m wrong here:

We have to pay Sammy $7 million regardless. So, if we release him and pick up another receiver for $5 million, we’re still out $12 million. That receiver likely won’t be as good as Sammy nor will he know the system.

That being said, it would be smarter to have Sammy for $12 million instead of a lesser receiver for $5 million. The cap hit will be the same.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Chiefs just signed Henne. You got to think a move is coming unless he signed for less than 1.8 mil a year