***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

There was big buzz last night about remdesivir in humans too, if you haven't seen it.

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's not a 100% bet by any means, but it certainly seems like there's a lot of positive stuff coming out about it lately. Sounds like they're hoping to have some real conclusions in a couple weeks.

The blurb I got was not so much that the results were good but where the results were coming from lending a lot of credibility to it all.

[Titty Meat]

Well I'd say the storm is hitting Missouri.

Smh mother ****ers are going to protest infront of the capital when its empty too

[dirk digler]

Lots of epidemiologists bashing the IHME model in this article. But there is some positive info.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/17/...s-critics-say/

Lipsitch and some other experts worry that by failing to include disease transmission, IHME’s projections of deaths could be too low. But more and more models are projecting a less dire future. Three weeks ago a SEIR model from researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology projected that total U.S. cases will plateau later this week, reaching 600,000 and then adding ever-fewer cases each day. So far it’s pretty much on the money, with the U.S. case count at 650,000 on Thursday and new daily cases remaining mostly flat.

A different, data-driven model from researchers at the University of Washington predicts “about 1 million cases in the U.S. by the end of the epidemic, around the first week in June, with new cases peaking in mid-April,” said UW applied mathematician Ka-Kit Tung, who led the work. “By the first week of June, we project that the number of new cases will be close to zero if current social distancing policies are maintained.” That model predicted two weeks ago that the number of new daily cases would peak around now, as seems to be the case.

[petegz28]

So Worldometers is showing only 105 new cases for Mo. Same as the Mo Dept of Health. Not sure where all this 5,500+ is coming from?

[Sure-Oz]

I can't keep up but has this come up in the thread

@DrDenaGrayson: BREAKING: preliminary data from an ongoing clinical study of #remdesivir showed that in 113 patients with severe #COVID19:

Fever/symptoms rapidly improved
Most discharged within 6 days
2 died (1.8%), much less than expected for severe #COVID19

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/...-to-treatment/

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I can't keep up but has this come up in the thread

@DrDenaGrayson: BREAKING: preliminary data from an ongoing clinical study of #remdesivir showed that in 113 patients with severe #COVID19:

Fever/symptoms rapidly improved
Most discharged within 6 days
2 died (1.8%), much less than expected for severe #COVID19

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/...-to-treatment/

Be careful not to trigger some people

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Be careful not to trigger some people

This would seem like positive news and hope.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I can't keep up but has this come up in the thread

@DrDenaGrayson: BREAKING: preliminary data from an ongoing clinical study of #remdesivir showed that in 113 patients with severe #COVID19:

Fever/symptoms rapidly improved
Most discharged within 6 days
2 died (1.8%), much less than expected for severe #COVID19

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/...-to-treatment/

That sounds promising.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Donger

That sounds promising.

But not inherently political?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by patteeu

But not inherently political?

Not that I'm aware of, no.

[Donger]

NY numbers seem odd. 395 new cases and 1,205 deaths?

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Donger

That sounds promising.

Yeah my thoughts as well. Hoping we hear more positive things about this in the coming weeks

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

But not inherently political?

Originally Posted by Donger

Not that I'm aware of, no.

It's a non-political political post?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m cutting out sugar as we speak.

Also trying cocaine for the “energy” boost since it’s better than sugar. Also doubling my alcohol use for the health benefits.

I hope it cures my asthma.

The cocaine will help with the hangover

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I can't keep up but has this come up in the thread

@DrDenaGrayson: BREAKING: preliminary data from an ongoing clinical study of #remdesivir showed that in 113 patients with severe #COVID19:

Fever/symptoms rapidly improved
Most discharged within 6 days
2 died (1.8%), much less than expected for severe #COVID19

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/...-to-treatment/

I'd prefer not getting deathly ill in the first place but I'm currently a beggar, not a chooser so I'll take it!

So for people who understand the drug approval process how many more trials or whatnot does it need to go through?