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View Poll Results: So. Was it Tom or Bill?
Tom Terrific 47 37.60%
Hoodie Bill 16 12.80%
Unsure 18 14.40%
Who cares about that poverty level team in Foxboro? 44 35.20%
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Old 11-01-2020, 07:36 PM   #2
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It's pretty simple.
They played great defense, didn't make stupid mistakes and they had a clutch QB. Usually 2/3 will win you the game in the NFL, so having all three made them damn tough to beat. Brady didn't have anything to do with the defense and Bill didn't have anything to do with the clutch QB, but they both were great at preventing the team from making bone-headed mental gaffes that many other teams do repeatedly.
He may not have had anything to do with the clutch factor, but he always provided Tom with a very good offensive line and receivers that could get open underneath, both playing in favor of Tom's success.
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Old 11-01-2020, 10:43 PM   #3
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Hank stram couldn't win with the saints, therefore he was never a good coach. It was all lenny. Let's not even mention the defense.

That's what some of you sound like.

Likewise Andy sucks. It's all mahomes.

That's how football works right? Success can only be attributed to 1 coach or player.

Brady's Bucs ain't won shit yet. Stop crowning them.
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Old 11-01-2020, 10:46 PM   #4
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Hank stram couldn't win with the saints, therefore he was never a good coach. It was all lenny.

That's what some of you sound like.

Likewise Andy sucks. It's all mahomes.

That's how football works right? Success can only be attributed to 1 coach or player.
Who said Bill sucks? Thats pure hyperbole.
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Old 11-01-2020, 10:49 PM   #5
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Who said Bill sucks? Thats pure hyperbole.
Hyperbole is acting like the other 52 players never mattered.

I mean goddamn, did anyone expect the patriots to get better this year?
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Old 11-01-2020, 10:50 PM   #6
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Hyperbole is acting like the other 52 players never mattered.
The other 52 players aren't being discussed. Sorry.
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Old 11-01-2020, 10:53 PM   #7
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The other 52 players aren't being discussed. Sorry.
Yeah, that's the problem.

If it was only about billy and Tommy, they would have won 20 rings. So the whole conversation is silly.

I'm shitting on the premise itself.
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Old 11-02-2020, 09:24 AM   #8
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I think the argument should be more around Josh McDaniels whose touted as some great offensive mind being a fraud without Tom than BB. Pat's are losing because their offense is hot garbage without Brady. The defense has actually been pretty good considering all the guys that opted out.

Where Belichick absolutely deserves criticism is his awful drafting. Every draft he's praised as winning the draft because of the constant moving up and down the board to aquire more picks but what good is that when majority of the actual picks stink?
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Old 11-02-2020, 09:27 AM   #9
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I think the argument should be more around Josh McDaniels whose touted as some great offensive mind being a fraud without Tom than BB. Pat's are losing because their offense is hot garbage without Brady. The defense has actually been pretty good considering all the guys that opted out.

Where Belichick absolutely deserves criticism is his awful drafting. Every draft he's praised as winning the draft because of the constant moving up and down the board to aquire more picks but what good is that when majority of the actual picks stink?
Brady has masked a lot of deficiencies on that team. He was the "Patriot Way" which is why almost everyone that leaves that organization fails elsewhere trying to implement that system.
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Old 11-02-2020, 10:41 AM   #10
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Brady has masked a lot of deficiencies on that team. He was the "Patriot Way" which is why almost everyone that leaves that organization fails elsewhere trying to implement that system.
Yep.
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Old 11-02-2020, 09:37 AM   #11
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...Pat's are losing because their offense is hot garbage without Brady...
Their offense was not good last year WITH BRADY.
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Old 11-02-2020, 09:46 AM   #12
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Old 11-02-2020, 09:56 AM   #13
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To be fair, Brady pulled about as close to a Lebron taking his talents to south beach as you could get without joining KC.

I mean God damn, look at all the talent on the team he joined. Anyone not named Jameis Winston could do what Tom is doing. Even Alex Smith, on one leg could do what Tom is doing in TB.
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Old 11-02-2020, 11:24 AM   #15
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I’ve said it many times:

Bill Belichick has a losing record as a head coach without Tom Brady as his QB.
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