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The man you could post like.
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Chiefs and Jones agree to new deal
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#196 |
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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There is no one up for free agency after this year that is more important to success or more valuable than Jones.
Nick Bolton is a MLb with coverage limitations (not a Fred Warner/Roquon Smith). Trey Smith is a RG. Creed Humphrey is a C. It would be risky to sacrifice your defensive unicorn/straw that stirs the drink to focus on keeping all 3 of those guys. I won’t be shocked if they only sign 1 long-term… And re: Jones deal, let’s not overlook the idea of future restructures. If they’re right against the cap next year or the year after, they could swipe the card again (restructure bonus) and push money into 26,27,28 and even into 29 and 30 on void years or added years. |
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#197 |
The Wait Is Over
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Random Small Town
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#198 |
Going home eventually
Join Date: Dec 2002
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If we get another ring with Jones it's worth it. If not and good players are let go then it wasn't.
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#199 |
Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
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#200 |
[b]Supporter[/b]
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Hypnagogic Landscape
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This isn’t exactly what I’d call eating crow, but I’ll take it. You couldn’t have been more wrong on Jones last year, and like a true idiot, you doubled down this year.
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#201 |
Consuming CP souls
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
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#202 |
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2018
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Chris is a 1st team All-Pro
He has never sustained a serious injury his entire career He is the driving force behind a defensive unit that have won 3 Super Bowls. He will likely go down as the best and most accomplished Chiefs defensive player ever. This was the right move and should be celebrated. Excited to see Veach go to work now to fill out the roster. |
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M-I-Z-Z-O-U
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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And honestly, we shouldn’t care. Jones is a game-wrecking pass rusher who lifts the tide of the entire defensive line. Even keeping the best C and MLb in the game is less important than that. If this deal is 5/160 on paper (what it’s sounding like) the Chiefs have threaded the needle on keeping their star defender on board without doing something astronomical on his salary. Yes, $95M guaranteed is a huge number, but how much of that is signing bonus and how much hits years 4 and 5 and is not real? I think most would sign up for having Jones over the next 3 years for an average cap hit of $28.3M dollars, which is what the deal is if it’s a $25M signing bonus with $95M guaranteed years 1-3. The penalty is some dead cap in years 4 and 5. And maybe more down the road if they bonus out money for cap space in 25 or 26. I mean, if the cap just jumps over the next 2 years what it has has jumped this year, by the time you’d potentially be looking at a $5M dead cap charge in 27, you’re talking about dead cap space of like 1.6 percent of the cap. Negligible. |
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#204 |
Veteran
Join Date: May 2019
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#205 |
MVP
Join Date: Mar 2021
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I didn't receive an amber alert for this! 31 other fan bases have had their Lombardi baby stolen!
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#206 |
Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
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I wouldn't have done it solely because his age, but his impact on the game is undeniable.
It's inked. Let's roll. I hope Sneed gets all the money. |
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#207 |
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2018
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Late in the year when Andy Reid started to refer to Sneed as the best corner in the game I was a bit taken back considering he was a free agent. I think this was the plan all along. Sneed had a career year just in time to raise his trade value immensely and I think Reid/Veach were trying to highlight the fact.
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#208 |
Please squeeze
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clinton, MO
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#209 |
MVP
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NYC
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I don't think we had a choice. He's healthy, productive, a good citizen, beloved teammate... you had to pay him.
Good for him. Good for us. The DL is rowdy with he, Furious George and, hopefully, FAU. |
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#210 |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Processing this deal the morning after. This turning out to be a 5-year deal smells like some brilliant capology by Veach that nobody anticipated. More years brings more flexibility, and against an ever increasing cap. It also feels better knowing if we don't get full value on this deal, we are at least paying a guy who was pivotal to winning all three of our championships, and ensuring he retires a Chief.
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