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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
Will update OP with more info.
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:16 AM   #2056
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And what the **** is a Hill homer? He's one of the greatest Chiefs of all time. I guess sign me up for being a Hill Homer, he's incredible and a blast to watch. Wish we still had him.
Oh you haven't heard? Hill is a selfish player who cares more about money than winning and who got figured out and held down by defenses last year.
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:30 AM   #2057
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Of course we won the trade.

So did Miami.

So did Tyreek.

It made sense for all parties to do what they did. It's a trade, not a zero-sum game.
Agreed. However, the book isn't written.

Reek won, and that part is over.

MIA may yet lose. That part we can reasonably surmise over time.

As far as us. If we win going away, it will be easy to surmise. If we lose, it becomes murky because we'll never know what we could have been with Reek.
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:32 AM   #2058
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Too early to be declaring any winners.

0 games have happened since the trade and while Tyreek got more money it could cost him a gold jacket in the end.
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:53 AM   #2059
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The trade is over. The trade was over BEFORE the draft.

"It's too early" is about judging what the parties do with the opportunity in front of them. They are separate things.

If I sell my 1994 honda civic for $200,000, I won that deal, right?

If I then spend that $200,000 losing lottery tickets, did I somehow NOT win the deal for my Honda Civic? Of course not. I just wasted my resources.

If the person who bought my honda civic sells it for $199,500, did they retroactively make a good deal when they bought it from me? No. They just managed to recover from their mistake. Yay.

You have to separate the deal from the management of acquired resources after.
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:08 AM   #2060
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Of course we won the trade.

So did Miami.

So did Tyreek.

It made sense for all parties to do what they did. It's a trade, not a zero-sum game.
I dunno about it making sense for Miami. It made sense for the Chiefs and Tyreek for sure though.

5 picks for a WR is insane, especially when your QB is Tua.
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:03 AM   #2061
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Oh you haven't heard? Hill is a selfish player who cares more about money than winning and who got figured out and held down by defenses last year.
ONE of these things you posted is true.

Hill even admitted as much in his press conference . . . . . .
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Old 05-02-2022, 03:07 PM   #2062
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The trade is over. The trade was over BEFORE the draft.

"It's too early" is about judging what the parties do with the opportunity in front of them. They are separate things.

If I sell my 1994 honda civic for $200,000, I won that deal, right?

If I then spend that $200,000 losing lottery tickets, did I somehow NOT win the deal for my Honda Civic? Of course not. I just wasted my resources.

If the person who bought my honda civic sells it for $199,500, did they retroactively make a good deal when they bought it from me? No. They just managed to recover from their mistake. Yay.

You have to separate the deal from the management of acquired resources after.
I’ll give you 100 bucks
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Old 05-02-2022, 05:06 PM   #2063
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ONE of these things you posted is true.

Hill even admitted as much in his press conference . . . . . .
What was the quote?
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:06 PM   #2064
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Feel free to watch his introductory press conference after the trade if you like, but he was asked (and yes, I’m paraphrasing) ‘how tough was it to leave the Chiefs?’ His response: ‘It was tough, real tough, but when somebody comes to you with a lot of money, feelings change. Those guys are Hall of Famers and they’re going to continue to do their thing, Coach Reid is gonna do his thibg. They’ll be alright’

Again, I’m paraphrasing, but that’s the gist of it. I interpret that as he knew he was leaving a Super Bowl team to go to another team, not because they offered him a lot of money, but because they offered him a shitload of money. Not really sure what other way you could interpret that.

I love Tyreek and appreciate everything he did for KC and wish him luck. No ill will here. But make no mistake, he absolutely chose money over winning by leaving KC to go to Miami. Doesn’t make him a bad person, but that’s the reality.
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:11 PM   #2065
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Hill didn’t win. He may think he did now, but he’ll remember what the good ol’ days were like as he’s watching KC win multiple Super Bowls from his couch.
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:25 PM   #2066
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It’s crazy to think about but after we see this years offense it could prove that Tyreek was holding us back from what we could be
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:38 PM   #2067
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It’s crazy to think about but after we see this years offense it could prove that Tyreek was holding us back from what we could be
Yup.

1) Tyreek was our best skill position player on offense while he was here.

2) The Chiefs can be a better more balanced offense without Tyreek.


Both of these things can be true.
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:45 PM   #2068
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It’s crazy to think about but after we see this years offense it could prove that Tyreek was holding us back from what we could be
Naw, Tyreek was not holding us back. All we needed was a more consistent running game. A legit #2 WR would have helped also.
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:47 PM   #2069
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Yup.

1) Tyreek was our best skill position player on offense while he was here.

2) The Chiefs can be a better more balanced offense without Tyreek.


Both of these things can be true.
Could have been better and more balanced with Tyreek also. Like they were in 2018 and 2019. That's on the Chiefs, not Tyreek.
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:57 PM   #2070
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I'm ok with Hill moving on. I wish he could/would have stayed, but he wasn't going to fit here any more with the amount of money he wanted. It's a business and that's just how it goes. He did great things with the Chiefs and I wish him continued success except against the Chiefs or at the Chiefs' expense.
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