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Old 04-23-2020, 11:36 PM  
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Draft - Day 2: who do like for KC?
Chiefs on tap tomorrow with picks #63, and #96

What positions do you think they address, and who do you hope they target?

I’ll say:

#63 - Damien Lewis, OG, LSU
#96 - Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:23 PM   #181
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How do you feel about using 2021 picks to try to pick up 2-3 more today?

I proposed 2021 1st and 6th for Miami's 2020 2nd (56), one of their 4ths (136) and one of their 5ths (forget number now).
Think it would take a lot more. Teams don't think NCAAF is happening this year and just don't seem interested in 2021 selections right now.

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Bullshit. They all move around strategically. You can't point to Baltimore or Pittsburgh or anyone. They've all moved up and around, especially recently. It pays dividends. Did the Steelers, everyone's model for "wait and see," sit and wait for Devin Bush? Nope, they went up and got him and he had 109 tackles for them last year.

I would agree you have to be very calculated about the when but to say "just sit there," more or less at all costs, isn't always best practice either.
The Steelers had to start doing that out of necessity because they blew a ton of choices. KC is not in that spot.

They've got one true need left.

But to flip your own example right back onto your head. If the Steelers freaked out and traded a future 1 in the last draft they would have no currency to get the value with Fitzpatrick during the season.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:23 PM   #182
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Speaks is taking X Williams roster spot and he's probably more DT than he is DE with that body type.
We'll see. Still makes absolutely no sense how that guy was drafted while we still ran the 3-4 and was put at OLB.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:26 PM   #183
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Think it would take a lot more. Teams don't think NCAAF is happening this year and just don't seem interested in 2021 selections right now.


The Steelers had to start doing that out of necessity because they blew a ton of choices. KC is not in that spot.

They've got one true need left.
Do you really think Miami is going to make 17 selections?

They're already saying they're open to moving down at 39.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:27 PM   #184
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Do you really think Miami is going to make 17 selections?

They're already saying they're open to moving down at 39.
They will move around in the rounds this year as they see fit probably.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:27 PM   #185
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I like Epenesa, but probably not as much as you do. I'm not sure if they're really shopping hard this year at that spot.
May not be shopping hard but we can see they looked at a few DEs. I think if Veach is sticking to his statement about looking past 2020 as well, then you have to consider that KPass will be gone and Okafor and Speaks will have 1 year remaining. And, I'd argue hard that Epenesa would start over any of them.

I'd look edge rusher later in the day if not for Epenesa. If Gross-Matos tumbled a bit longer, I'd maybe make a small move up to the 50's for him. I think a 2021 3rd would easily do that, maybe a 4th depending on how far you feel you need to go. Otherwise, wait until 96. I don't like any of the rest at 63. Too many other positions I feel have far greater value that will be sitting there.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:28 PM   #186
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Yeah, a guy who still offers basically nothing in coverage and is basically just a guy. We've been killed the last 2 years on passes over the middle, and our run defense still isn't exactly dominant. I don't see many redeeming qualities in our linebackers.
And yet they won the 2019 Super Bowl and were an offsides call from a second appearance.

You seem to value (and overvalue) linebackers and cornerbacks more than Veach and the Chiefs.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:29 PM   #187
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Matt Miller also treats the Chiefs like they can't draft, a TE in round 3?
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:30 PM   #188
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May not be shopping hard but we can see they looked at a few DEs. I think if Veach is sticking to his statement about looking past 2020 as well, then you have to consider that KPass will be gone and Okafor and Speaks will have 1 year remaining. And, I'd argue hard that Epenesa would start over any of them.

I'd look edge rusher later in the day if not for Epenesa. If Gross-Matos tumbled a bit longer, I'd maybe make a small move up to the 50's for him. I think a 2021 3rd would easily do that, maybe a 4th depending on how far you feel you need to go. Otherwise, wait until 96. I don't like any of the rest at 63. Too many other positions I feel have far greater value that will be sitting there.
I like the Volunteers guy a lot. Would be a fantastic get if he slides to late 3rd.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:30 PM   #189
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Dude, I'm not complaining about CEH. It's not my favorite pick in the world, but I don't hate it. I'm excited about what he offers to the offense. No problem at all with supplementing the offense, just think offense needs to be on the back burner with our remaining picks.
And I think the Chiefs could easily spend 3 out of their last 4 picks on offense in a WR, guard and center.

Hell, maybe even two WR's, if the value is there.
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And yet they won the 2019 Super Bowl and were an offsides call from a second appearance.

You seem to value (and overvalue) linebackers and cornerbacks more than Veach and the Chiefs.
You’d think at some point he’d start to get that while Veach does clearly want a a CB or LB, he’s not going to reach for one.

If CEH is off the board last night, he doesn’t just go draft Swift because he wants a RB. He’s not going to do it with any position. If we didn’t trade up for Mahomes in 2017, it’s been said we would’ve taken a LB. if we didn’t trade for Clark, we probably would’ve taken a corner judging by The Franchise.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:32 PM   #191
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Matt Miller also treats the Chiefs like they can't draft, a TE in round 3?
I wouldn't just dismiss it, he's pretty plugged in with the Chiefs....
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:32 PM   #192
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Matt Miller also treats the Chiefs like they can't draft, a TE in round 3?
I've always thought that Matt Miller was a dope.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:34 PM   #193
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Matt Miller also treats the Chiefs like they can't draft, a TE in round 3?
Miller is one of the only people that mocked CEH to us at 32 (second to last mock).

He probably just doesn’t realize we signed Seales-Jones. He’s convinced we will never stop giving Mahomes weapons (and he’s right, just not here).
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:34 PM   #194
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Running Backs - Chiefs not interested, but I would think these guys would go soon.
D'Andre Swift 5-8, 212 Georgia
Jonathan Taylor 5-10, 226 Wisconsin
J.K. Dobbins 5-10, 209 Ohio State
Cam Akers 5-10, 217 Florida State
Yep. Let’s hope there’s a run on HB’s and QB’s this evening, before our picks.
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I've always thought that Matt Miller was a dope.
He’s actually a pretty good talent evaluator. It’s his predictions that aren’t great.

But like I said, had CEH in his top 32 and one of the few people if any that mocked him to us in the 1st.

He had us going RB in the 1st for a while.

But we aren’t going TE.
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