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11-24-2008, 08:47 AM | #181 |
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11-24-2008, 08:51 AM | #182 |
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11-24-2008, 08:53 AM | #183 | |
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But a director often has control over the shots, lighting, casting, music... it's all his job, which is why he gets such a major credit for creating the film. The director also helps each actor in his vision, oftentimes garnering nuances to a performance that another director could not have done. I'll give you one example, that I think personifies this argument: Alfred Hitchcock's version of Psycho vs. Gus Van Sant's version of Psycho. Van Sant kept true to Hitchcock's vision, creating a shot-for-shot remake of Hitchcock's film, yet Hitch's version is universally accepted as a great piece of film, while Van Sant's work is seen as total crap. The same can be said for countless remakes where the same script is used yet different results are seen on film, but the Psycho example, I think, is the best. Not only was the script the same, but so were the shots, and even the original Bernard Hermann score was adapted by Danny Elfman for the remake. |
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11-24-2008, 08:56 AM | #184 | |
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11-24-2008, 09:07 AM | #185 | |
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That being said, I didn't post it as an argument. I got more than I ever wanted out of this thread. Learned a little, confirmed a little, and rethought a few things. |
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11-24-2008, 09:08 AM | #186 | |
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11-24-2008, 09:26 AM | #187 |
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Hey now. We were in a good spot last night. That is NOT what I said, sir. It was hyperbole, but I said that anyone with decent cognitive function would see that the movie, by denying viewer's a satisfying-in-the-typical-way ending, is making a comment on the harshness of reality and also a comment on the nature of movie narrative. What I said made no claim whatsoever that anyone with decent cognitive function had to "like" or "Understand" the ending.
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11-24-2008, 09:34 AM | #188 | |
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Was Coppola a sell-out for bringing The Godfather to sensible conclusion? Was Unforgiven not art? Should I toss my Seven DVD in the trash because Fincher dared to actually include all seven deadly sins? I guess we should just have a random ending generator for movies, and only then will they be worth watching. |
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11-24-2008, 09:36 AM | #189 | |
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11-24-2008, 09:38 AM | #190 |
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I wasn't the biggest fan of the ending, but I don't really have much of a problem with nihilism.
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11-24-2008, 09:40 AM | #191 |
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So if Seven had ended with Spacey screaming over and over, WHERE'S MY PACKAGE?????, you wouldn't have been sitting in the audience wondering "What the hell is this?" This is basically the ending the Coens gave us. Horseshit. Don't poke me in the eye and tell me its art.
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11-24-2008, 10:02 AM | #192 | |
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11-24-2008, 10:09 AM | #193 |
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Wrong. The movie leads up to a climax that never happens, and then throws in some random act at the end for shits and grins. As I have said before, if I want to see pointless random crap I'll look out the window.
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11-24-2008, 10:13 AM | #194 |
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Are you talking about the conclusion to the Godfather movie or the conclusion of the trilogy, because the Godfather 3 was an abortion.
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11-24-2008, 10:14 AM | #195 | |
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