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11-10-2003, 12:20 PM | #2 |
Time For Your Wake Up Call !!!
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Can't believe you guys are still letting this thing harp along.......
Let it go, so many people, so many opinions. |
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11-10-2003, 12:20 PM | #3 |
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You know, all I was trying to do in the thread was say that it's sad when racism is tolerated, no matter whom it's directed towards. Instead, I basically get flamed, essentially told that the white man is being oppressed and given meaningless stats (um, having 12% of coaches in the NFL means nothing when there are only 32 teams, Simplex3. If you think that's truly representative, then I feel for you). But I've learned a lot about some of the people on this BBs. Thanks for the insight. |
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11-10-2003, 01:22 PM | #4 | |
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Affirmative action is nothing more than legal discrimination. Discrimination will always be here as long as people are different, that is my only point. As far as toleration goes I'm not really sure what Otter said so I am not really in a position to discuss whether it was out of line. To say you gained insight is the most ridiculous thing I have ever scene you post at the planet. My girl is half filipino. My girlfreind before her was all mexican. Neither of them was racially sensitive. I just think people like playing the victim too much. JMO Talking Can, I listed some of the things I went through. If you want to say that is absurd you can but it doesn't change the facts. |
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11-10-2003, 01:43 PM | #5 | |
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Second, no one is stopping a white guy from playing FB or BB. If they're good enough, they get a job. Owners and collegiate ADs, on the other hand, are keeping competent, worthy minorities from coaching jobs. Not because they are necessarily racist, but because there's a "good 'ol boy network" going on. How else does Dennis Erickson get another job in the NFL when he sucked total ass the first time around? How the fucking hell does Schottenheimer still have a job? Why did Detroit make up their minds before even interviewing anyone else? Of course, I'm sure you'll say I've been brainwashed by the media, or that I'm PC, or however else you want to justify it. Third, I agree that Affirmative Action doesn't work. Read my post a few pages ago and you'd have seen that. Fourth and last, what I've "scene" on this BBs in this thread is ridiculous. White men crying about how they're soooo mistreated is the most pathetic thing I've ever "scene" in this place, and has shown me a lot about a few of its members. I already knew that raiderhader was a sexist piece of crap. Hell, he's lucky my wife didn't kick his ass at Gators during the 37 Forever weekend. (BTW, it's called respect, Jamie. It's too bad you have none for women. No wonder you're a virgin--and if you talk to all women the way you did that Friday, you better get used to it.) I already knew some here think it's okay to throw racial insults around--afterall, people are just "too sensitive" nowadays. I mean, racism is okay as long as it's not the poor, oppressed white man experiencing it. This thread takes the ****ing cake. See ya. MM ~~ |
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11-10-2003, 02:27 PM | #6 | |||
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"Well, we found this great black coach, but I think we'll hire this white loser instead. Hell, it's not like I want to keep my job." Quote:
You're crying and whining about representation, but you don't apply it equally. If you want the NFL head coaching positions to not be racist, then we need to break it down: 16 men, 16 women. 5 blacks, 10 hispanics, 2 asians, and 15 whites. Of course we'll be under-representing American Indians, Middle Eastern-Americans, etc. Quite a quandry, huh? |
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11-10-2003, 02:32 PM | #7 | |
Fall down 7 times, get up 8
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Currently there are 3 black coaches out of 32 teams - Dungy, Edwards, Lewis. The black population is approximately 12% of the nation, there is not a whole lot of disparity there at all. While only one was hired after affirmative action was implemented in the NFL, he merely took the spot of another, Green. None of that is justification, it is fact. How did Tony Dungy get another job? Last I saw, he was still black. Why is Herman Edwards still at NY? Seriously, look at his record and give me an answer. I honestly don't see a multimillionaire have the following issue: "hmm, I love owning my team and having it coached by a white man. Thanks to hiring Schottenheimer, I won't be able to raise ticket prices anytime soon, but at least he is white. I know Marvin Lewis would have got me to the SB, but I would rather be a loser with a white coach than a SB winner with a black one". |
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11-10-2003, 02:47 PM | #8 | |
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meme, If your going to call people Imperial wizards the least you could do is let us know who you are reffeing to. Second request. |
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11-10-2003, 02:53 PM | #9 |
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Mark,
BTW, Shottenheimer was the 2nd winningest coach of the 90s. Some may feel that he is worthy of another shot. I know that is a real reach for you being a Chiefs fan but the numbers are the numbers. |
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11-10-2003, 04:33 PM | #10 | |
CHANGEd your mind yet????
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11-10-2003, 12:23 PM | #11 |
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Okay now let's all drink our sleepytime tea.
I know I'm ready for a nap. |
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11-10-2003, 02:39 PM | #12 |
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The only racist people that are multi-millionaires or billionaires inherited it. Like, say, the Kenedys.
Those who earned it did it by working with the best people out there. How many rich Klansmen do you see? Not very many. I can point to as many rich black "leaders" (like Jesse Jackson). |
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11-10-2003, 05:50 PM | #13 |
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I'm sure I'd much rather be a Mexican than a whiny-ass, bedwetting, overly sensitive liberal...
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12-18-2003, 07:43 AM | #14 |
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what was the over/under on our favorite drama queen returning?
somebody won some money.... |
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12-18-2003, 02:24 PM | #15 | |
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