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05-11-2021, 11:05 AM | #181 | |
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05-11-2021, 11:56 AM | #182 |
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Despite any pre-draft issues I had with Bolton, he’s on our team now. I hope the best for him.
Hopefully he becomes an excellent backer for multiple contracts |
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05-11-2021, 02:48 PM | #183 |
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I'm not a huge fan of the pick but the rational side of me sees the value and it's pretty high.
He's going to play this year and he's going to replace Hitchens next year. His floor is probably higher than Hitchens' talent level right now, so it will be an upgrade, even if it's only modest, and save us almost $10M. |
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05-11-2021, 04:23 PM | #184 | |
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If he was taken high than he has high expectations. Just because he was higher on some boards....doesn’t mean shit. |
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05-13-2021, 09:35 AM | #185 |
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The pick of Bolton tells you that the chiefs liked taco and danna more than perkins and basham. Or liked Bolton better than hitchens in comparison with Perkins or basham vs taco and danna. The chiefs just didn’t like basham or Perkins. Kaindoh has a higher ceiling than either player. He’s huge and long and has an elite 10 yard split. He’s a project but they picked him earlier than anticipated so maybe they see something there. They clearly liked kaindoh in the 4th better than basham or Perkins in the 2nd. Kaindoh is also more of a spags fit.
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05-13-2021, 10:51 AM | #186 | |
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They may have liked Perkins and Basham better than anyone on the roster and any other edge rushers remaining but didn't have them valued as high as Bolton and Humphrey. It's not like LB and OC weren't also future needs at a minimum. I personally valued both over Bolton but not over Humphrey, albeit Perkins was a fringe fit here. I'd have likely taken Humphrey over any of them at 58 which takes Basham out of play regardless. If it came to Bolton vs Perkins, that would have been an awfully rough choice to make but I likely would have gone Perkins. It's easy for me to look in retrospect and say Basham and Humphrey but the draft doesn't run that way and you have to think who you would have taken first. Hopefully, Veach comes out the smart one and we all look back and think he made great choices. |
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05-13-2021, 11:18 AM | #187 | |
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I like Basham alright, but in all honesty, I see him as a high floor, low ceiling player. I seriously doubt he's ever a difference maker type, but will likely be a solid if unspectacular DE. I don't mind rolling the dice later on a guy like Kaindoh, who COULD be a monster player OR could be selling insurance in three years. We've got enough Mike Dannas. |
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05-13-2021, 11:34 AM | #188 | |
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We got Humphrey at 63 which nobody thought could happen. If they would have taken Humphrey at 58, Basham was gone. I think they got good value and that's what they cared about. Not that they're in love with the guys already on the roster. |
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05-13-2021, 11:39 AM | #189 |
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If they take Humphrey at 58 then I don’t think Bolton is there at 63.
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05-13-2021, 11:42 AM | #190 | |
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05-13-2021, 11:56 AM | #191 |
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05-13-2021, 12:06 PM | #192 | |
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Kaindoh might not have Basham’s high floor, but he definitely has more upside. You can’t find a LB like that in the 4th. The thing people are missing about Basham is that he’s a guy that you would have to slide inside on passing downs to get the most out of his pass rush abilities. We don’t need that. We have Jones, Reed, and Wharton. We need a true edge rusher. |
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05-13-2021, 12:31 PM | #193 | |
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In the SB we didn’t have Willie Gay, and to their credit Wilson (goal line stop) and Hitchens (forced incompletion in end zone) made plays but if you watch the 2nd half of the SB Brady literally went to the line and audibled. Is Sorenson in as a LB? Okay we’re running. Is Neimann in but with Sorenson to put 8 in the box? Okay we’re doing play action. We had nothing in the middle of the field. It was by far our biggest weakness heading into the draft. They just could not expose Ben Neimann and/or Sorenson at LB anymore. Add that our biggest competition for a ring requires us to defend the middle of the field and the run. Browns, Ravens and Bucs. I wasn’t a big Bolton fan but I completely understand the pick |
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