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09-23-2024, 01:49 PM | #181 |
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09-23-2024, 01:49 PM | #182 | |
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09-23-2024, 01:56 PM | #183 | |
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There's not really an opening there. It's not designed to have one, IMO. That's a run-off designed to get the MLB to drop deeper into coverage and open the middle screen to Kelce. That was a one-route play, IMO. Everything else is designed to make space for Kelce and it didn't work. |
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09-23-2024, 01:58 PM | #184 | |
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As good as 24/157 is, it would be a positively pedestrian day for Mahomes. ESPECIALLY when you drop out of the shell and he gashes you for 9-10 yards/attempt. The answer isn't the running game. Not for this team. |
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09-23-2024, 02:05 PM | #185 | |
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The crossers aren’t there bc they’re putting 1 more DB in for a LB and backing the backers and corners up about 10 yards off the LOS. The deep ball isn’t working bc the safeties are halving the field deep. They’re begging us to run the ball and throw short. Basically handing it to us and they don’t give a shit. We did well moving the ball down the field this way but continually **** ourselves in the red zone or short yardage. But again Mahomes put a tiny bit more air on that pick, it’s 29 points. They’re making us really work for points. They want us running 10+ plays each drive. |
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09-23-2024, 02:08 PM | #186 | |
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09-23-2024, 02:16 PM | #187 | |
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Two things. Rightfully so, Mahomes/Reid is graded against the curve. Also, he is 20th in ypa. Very similar to last year both in ypa and rank. Both a full yard lower than 2022. This isn’t a new issue. |
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09-23-2024, 02:42 PM | #188 | |
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You want them to throw deep when they are dropping 7 defenders that deep? If doing what we are doing isn’t working, then what do you recommend they do? |
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09-23-2024, 02:52 PM | #189 |
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I genuinely cannot believe folks are so desperate to simp for Nagy that they're acting like dropping 7 into coverage with double high safeties is a revolutionary concept. It's modernized Tampa Two, a defense that's been a thing for literal decades.
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09-23-2024, 02:53 PM | #190 |
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But yeah, let's just throw horizontal passes 20+ times a game, flame out in the Red Zone, and rely on the opponent ****ing things up and defensive heroics to win while we have one of the greatest QB talents to ever play behind center.
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09-23-2024, 02:55 PM | #191 |
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Theoretically speaking it shouldn't be hard to beat. It however does highlight a lot of the problems with today's NFL though. It highlights how reliant offenses are on quick game concepts, slants, crosses etc. It also highlights how very few offensive lines are actually capable of holding up long enough for a QB to throw a skinny post or something on that level.
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09-23-2024, 03:04 PM | #192 | |
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09-23-2024, 03:06 PM | #193 |
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Half of their drives last night (not counting the last kneel down drive to end the game) were long drives of 67+ yards and 353 total offensive yards.
They clearly don’t have a problem beating cover 2 the way you’re pissing and moaning about due to A-Dot stats. The QB making mind numblingly stupid INT’s and red zone issues are literally it. This team scores from inside the 5 like they are supposed to, then they score a total of 30 points last week and 29 this week. |
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09-23-2024, 03:09 PM | #194 | |
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Yes, you can get vertical on a Cover 2. But you need your OTs to stand up AND you need 2 vertical weapons to stress both halves of the Cover 2 shell. If you don't, you're gonna struggle vertically against it. In Worthy we have one who we appear to kinda sorta maybe trust and in Rice we appear to be trying to develop one. But Hollywood was a pretty significant part of creating a downfield attack against that 2-high shell. And when Kingsley shit the bed against Hendrickson, it created an even bigger headache for that approach. This isn't a bombs away personnel group right now. Maybe it gets there - but you wanna win while you're getting that done. And right now this is how we're gonna have to win - deliberate, oftentimes hideous, offense. Now, none of that really explains the red zone struggles. But again, that's not new to Nagy. Our red zone efficiency has been scattershot for a decade. And statistically most teams show no year over year red zone efficiency. It seems more and more to be kinda random and it equalizes over a long enough timeline. Hopefully we get some positive regression here soon enough. |
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09-23-2024, 03:12 PM | #195 |
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Uh, but we DO have a second super fast guy on the roster currently that Mahomes has had success connecting deep with in the past.
He's currently on special teams only duty while Skyy Moore takes snaps on offense. |
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