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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 04-23-2019, 11:30 AM

Sources: The #Seahawks and #Chiefs are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 23, 2019

staylor26 · 04-25-2019, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I was talking about the contract extension.

Gotcha well the person you quoted sounded like they were talking about to the trade, hence the part about the 1st rounder.

Reroka · 04-25-2019, 07:58 AM

Should help us. I like the play as long as he can stay out of trouble. Not sure about a 1st round pick thou.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-25-2019, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

I was going to say Derrick Thomas but JPP is fine.

Meaner. Nastier.

Skyy God · 04-25-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Meaner. Nastier.

More fingers.

KChiefs1 · 04-25-2019, 12:01 PM

How Frank Clark trade affects 2019 NFL Draft: Options for the Seahawks in Round 1, Chiefs in Round 2

By Chris Trapasso Apr 23, 2019 at 2:51 pm ET

The Chiefs have the replacement for Dee Ford on the edge of their defensive line in Frank Clark, and the trade has sizable ramifications on the first round of the 2019 NFL Draft.

Here are the details of the trade:

Chiefs get: DE Frank Clark, Seahawks' 2019 third-round pick
Seahawks get: Chiefs' 2019 first-round pick, Chiefs' 2019 third-round pick, Chiefs' 2020 second-round pick

While Clark had emerged as the best pass rusher in Seattle's post Legion of Boom era, the soon-to-be-26-year-old hadn't come to a long-term agreement with Seahawks management and had been designated the team's franchise player.

As a win-now, playoff-caliber club, draft picks may seem a little more insignificant for Seattle than other teams. But the reality is every team, every year needs to infuse cheap youth into its roster. And before this trade, Pete Carroll's team had just four picks in the 2019 draft, with one selection in the first round, third round, fourth round, and fifth round.

This is now what the Seahawks look like in terms of draft capital on Day 1 and Day 2 this year:

Round 1: No. 21 overall
Round 1: No. 29 overall (acquired in Clark trade)
Round 3: No. 92 overall

And the Chiefs:

Round 2: No. 61 overall
Round 2: No. 63 overall
Round 3: No. 84 overall

Let's assess some options for both clubs with their opening picks in this draft.

Seahawks' Round 1 options

Suddenly armed with two first-round picks, Seattle is in an awesome situation. Of course, a replacement for Clark would be logical, and prospects like Clemson's Clelin Ferrell, Mississippi State's Montez Sweat, and Florida State's Brian Burns are reasonable options at No. 21 overall. No, all of them probably won't be available, but any would represent solid value at a clear position of need.

If they decide to wait until No. 29 to address the edge-rusher spot, Michigan's draft riser Chase Winovich would firmly be in play, and his athletic profile looks similar to many of the prospects Seattle has acquired at the outside pass-rusher spot during the Carroll/John Schneider era.

Receiver has always been on the radar for the Seahawks, and now they have the luxury of being patient with that spot if they so desire. If D.K. Metcalf somehow fell to No. 21, they'd have to consider him given Russell Wilson's downfield-passing specialty. Stanford's J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, Arizona State's N'Keal Harry, or Iowa State's Hakeem Butler could be in play at No. 29.

Other possible positions and prospects on the table now in Round 1:

Virginia safety Juan Thornhill, Maryland safety Darnell Savage (both very athletic options to help to replace Earl Thomas)
Oklahoma guard/tackle Cody Ford (run-blocking prowess)
Vanderbilt cornerback Joejuan Williams, Kentucky cornerback Lonnie Johnson (tall, long, athletic defensive backs)

Chiefs' Round 2 options

Of course, the Chiefs are now viewing their 2019 first-round pick as Clark, and they paid a hefty price to acquire him, especially relative to sole 2020 second-rounder they got from the 49ers in the Dee Ford trade. Important note on the player-to-player comparison for what it's worth: Clark is two years younger than Ford and likely a better scheme fit in Kansas City.

And his presence eliminates the chances Kansas City goes edge rusher with either of their second-round selections in this draft.

The interior of the offensive line -- after losing Mitch Morse in free agency -- would be logical, given the small sample size from his replacement Austin Reiter and the inconsistent play from penciled in starter at left guard Cam Erving.

Kansas State's Dalton Risner, who played right tackle in college but could thrive anywhere up front, would be a tremendous get in Round 2. So would Boston College's Chris Lindstrom. Penn State's Connor McGovern is flying up draft boards, checks the athleticism boxes for most teams, and has experience -- and solid play -- at multiple positions on the line. That trio should be in play at No. 61 and/or No. 63. I'll throw in two other names: Oklahoma's super-experienced guard Dru Samia and Charlotte's compact blocker Nate Davis.

If the Chiefs want to add to their secondary -- even after signing Tyrann Mathieu -- Notre Dame's disruptive cornerback Julian Love could be available late in Round 2. Staying at corner, Central Michigan's Sean Bunting shot up draft boards after a big combine. He'd make sense. Florida's Chauncey Gardner-Johnson would give the Chiefs two slot matchup safeties, and CGJ has impressive range from center field. If Alabama's springy safety Deionte Thompson were to be available when the Chiefs go on the clock in the second round, he'd be a smart pick too.

Lastly, Kansas City could look to address the long-term viability of the receiver group, especially given the uncertain future of superstar Tyreek Hill. And two Ohio State pass catchers would be awesome fits for Andy Reid's YAC-predicated offenses as well as Patrick Mahomes' aggressiveness downfield: speedsters Terry McLaurin and Parris Campbell. Notre Dame's freaky, big-bodied wideout Miles Boykin should be on the radar too.

MagicHef · 04-25-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Imagine him lining up against Garrett Bolles

He did, week 1 last year. He didn't do anything against Bolles.

He got 1 sack on a stunt where he ended up unblocked, but did nothing else all game.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-25-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

He did, week 1 last year. He didn't do anything against Bolles.

He got 1 sack on a stunt where he ended up unblocked, but did nothing else all game.

He wasn’t unblocked. He ran right through Matt Paradis. But carry on.

staylor26 · 04-25-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

He did, week 1 last year. He didn't do anything against Bolles.

He got 1 sack on a stunt where he ended up unblocked, but did nothing else all game.

Lol You’re in one thread praying there are pics of Tyreek that will get him cut/banned, and you’re in here praying that since Clark didn’t impress you in the Sea/Den game you rewatched it means he’s not the beast everybody is saying he is.

No matter how much you want it to not be the case, we will continue to be your daddy.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 04-25-2019, 01:14 PM

Chiefs finally announced it

Megatron96 · 04-25-2019, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

He did, week 1 last year. He didn't do anything against Bolles.

He got 1 sack on a stunt where he ended up unblocked, but did nothing else all game.

Something to consider: how much help was Clark getting from his teammates on the D-line? IIRC, the Seahawks D-line as a unit didn't average more than 5 sacks a man.

Also, one game doesn't paint a picture. Barry Sanders was held to -1 yard against the Packers one game. One game.

WhawhaWhat · 04-25-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime

Chiefs finally announced it

Trade isn't official until he passed a physical. Def Leppard t-shirt and Van Halen jacket.. he knows how to get hearts of the Camaroheads.

Red Dawg · 04-25-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Trade isn't official until he passed a physical. Def Leppard t-shirt and Van Halen jacket.. he knows how to get hearts of the Camaroheads.

Rock'in the Def Leppard t-shirt? Yeah, I think wanna get one of those and be like Clark. He's the man appealing to the white trash in Olathe.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-25-2019, 02:02 PM

Good watch here—> https://twitter.com/chiefs/status/11...398823424?s=21

Matt Miller says that Clark would be the #1 pass rusher in this draft class if he entered it today. He also paralleled what I mentioned earlier about how the alternative of trading up into the top 15 and having to use your 2nd(s) this year was not a better option for the team right now.

**ptlyon** · 04-25-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Rock'in the Def Leppard t-shirt? Yeah, I think wanna get one of those and be like Clark. He's the man appealing to the white trash in Olathe.

He somehow knows about the CP adopt-a-Chief!

ToxSocks · 04-25-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Good watch here—> https://twitter.com/chiefs/status/11...398823424?s=21

Matt Miller says that Clark would be the #1 pass rusher in this draft class if he entered it today. He also paralleled what I mentioned earlier about how the alternative of trading up into the top 15 and having to use your 2nd(s) this year was not a better option for the team right now.

I hate this ****ing feature that auto mutes when you swap tabs.

There's a place in hell for whatever developer thought that up.

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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life MAHOMO 4 LIFE!'s Avatar Join Date: Nov 2018	Frank Clark to KC! Sources: The #Seahawks and #Chiefs are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal. — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 23, 2019
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! KChiefs1's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri	How Frank Clark trade affects 2019 NFL Draft: Options for the Seahawks in Round 1, Chiefs in Round 2 By Chris Trapasso Apr 23, 2019 at 2:51 pm ET The Chiefs have the replacement for Dee Ford on the edge of their defensive line in Frank Clark, and the trade has sizable ramifications on the first round of the 2019 NFL Draft. Here are the details of the trade: Chiefs get: DE Frank Clark, Seahawks' 2019 third-round pick Seahawks get: Chiefs' 2019 first-round pick, Chiefs' 2019 third-round pick, Chiefs' 2020 second-round pick While Clark had emerged as the best pass rusher in Seattle's post Legion of Boom era, the soon-to-be-26-year-old hadn't come to a long-term agreement with Seahawks management and had been designated the team's franchise player. As a win-now, playoff-caliber club, draft picks may seem a little more insignificant for Seattle than other teams. But the reality is every team, every year needs to infuse cheap youth into its roster. And before this trade, Pete Carroll's team had just four picks in the 2019 draft, with one selection in the first round, third round, fourth round, and fifth round. This is now what the Seahawks look like in terms of draft capital on Day 1 and Day 2 this year: Round 1: No. 21 overall Round 1: No. 29 overall (acquired in Clark trade) Round 3: No. 92 overall And the Chiefs: Round 2: No. 61 overall Round 2: No. 63 overall Round 3: No. 84 overall Let's assess some options for both clubs with their opening picks in this draft. Seahawks' Round 1 options Suddenly armed with two first-round picks, Seattle is in an awesome situation. Of course, a replacement for Clark would be logical, and prospects like Clemson's Clelin Ferrell, Mississippi State's Montez Sweat, and Florida State's Brian Burns are reasonable options at No. 21 overall. No, all of them probably won't be available, but any would represent solid value at a clear position of need. If they decide to wait until No. 29 to address the edge-rusher spot, Michigan's draft riser Chase Winovich would firmly be in play, and his athletic profile looks similar to many of the prospects Seattle has acquired at the outside pass-rusher spot during the Carroll/John Schneider era. Receiver has always been on the radar for the Seahawks, and now they have the luxury of being patient with that spot if they so desire. If D.K. Metcalf somehow fell to No. 21, they'd have to consider him given Russell Wilson's downfield-passing specialty. Stanford's J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, Arizona State's N'Keal Harry, or Iowa State's Hakeem Butler could be in play at No. 29. Other possible positions and prospects on the table now in Round 1: Virginia safety Juan Thornhill, Maryland safety Darnell Savage (both very athletic options to help to replace Earl Thomas) Oklahoma guard/tackle Cody Ford (run-blocking prowess) Vanderbilt cornerback Joejuan Williams, Kentucky cornerback Lonnie Johnson (tall, long, athletic defensive backs) Chiefs' Round 2 options Of course, the Chiefs are now viewing their 2019 first-round pick as Clark, and they paid a hefty price to acquire him, especially relative to sole 2020 second-rounder they got from the 49ers in the Dee Ford trade. Important note on the player-to-player comparison for what it's worth: Clark is two years younger than Ford and likely a better scheme fit in Kansas City. And his presence eliminates the chances Kansas City goes edge rusher with either of their second-round selections in this draft. The interior of the offensive line -- after losing Mitch Morse in free agency -- would be logical, given the small sample size from his replacement Austin Reiter and the inconsistent play from penciled in starter at left guard Cam Erving. Kansas State's Dalton Risner, who played right tackle in college but could thrive anywhere up front, would be a tremendous get in Round 2. So would Boston College's Chris Lindstrom. Penn State's Connor McGovern is flying up draft boards, checks the athleticism boxes for most teams, and has experience -- and solid play -- at multiple positions on the line. That trio should be in play at No. 61 and/or No. 63. I'll throw in two other names: Oklahoma's super-experienced guard Dru Samia and Charlotte's compact blocker Nate Davis. If the Chiefs want to add to their secondary -- even after signing Tyrann Mathieu -- Notre Dame's disruptive cornerback Julian Love could be available late in Round 2. Staying at corner, Central Michigan's Sean Bunting shot up draft boards after a big combine. He'd make sense. Florida's Chauncey Gardner-Johnson would give the Chiefs two slot matchup safeties, and CGJ has impressive range from center field. If Alabama's springy safety Deionte Thompson were to be available when the Chiefs go on the clock in the second round, he'd be a smart pick too. Lastly, Kansas City could look to address the long-term viability of the receiver group, especially given the uncertain future of superstar Tyreek Hill. And two Ohio State pass catchers would be awesome fits for Andy Reid's YAC-predicated offenses as well as Patrick Mahomes' aggressiveness downfield: speedsters Terry McLaurin and Parris Campbell. Notre Dame's freaky, big-bodied wideout Miles Boykin should be on the radar too.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	Good watch here—> https://twitter.com/chiefs/status/11...398823424?s=21 Matt Miller says that Clark would be the #1 pass rusher in this draft class if he entered it today. He also paralleled what I mentioned earlier about how the alternative of trading up into the top 15 and having to use your 2nd(s) this year was not a better option for the team right now.
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