***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

There is something wrong with that guy.

eh, he said should and said something about he's an optimist. This shit is all subject to change though, thats what people have to get!

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by 2112

If the parents have questions it leads to dealing with 30-40 emails a night with follow ups. They didn’t have to do that when they were doing the classrooms

Well maybe we should just send their students to their homes every day.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well maybe we should just send their students to their homes every day.

Hahahaha that’s a great idea!

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by 2112

If the parents have questions it leads to dealing with 30-40 emails a night with follow ups. They didn’t have to do that when they were doing the classrooms

Booo ****ing hooo..... I face twice as many emails from client and vendors every day.

[2112]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Booo ****ing hooo..... I face twice as many emails from client and vendors every day.

On a positive note it’s keeping Kotter from posting much.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I would have thought they'd be happier not having to face the little hellions every day

Almost every teacher I know, both at the school I run as well as at my kids' schools, is in absolute mourning for the school year and at not being able to see their kids again. Every single one of them would return to work tomorrow gladly if they were able.

My school is a high school, so the advisors to the seniors are especially torn up.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by 2112

On a positive note it’s keeping Kotter from posting much.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

eh, he said should and said something about he's an optimist. This shit is all subject to change though, thats what people have to get!

I think you missed the point.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

eh, he said should and said something about he's an optimist. This shit is all subject to change though, thats what people have to get!

I agree. He just gave his opinion. I don't see how anything he said about schools opening in Fall means there is something wrong with him.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by 2112

Teachers are crying that they’re working harder now remotely than they were in the classrooms. That’s never gonna happen

I don’t think you realize how colossal of an undertaking it was to shift from classroom to remote teaching.

I am proud of our local school district. I am not going to speak for the others.

[2112]

Originally Posted by notorious

I don’t think you realize how colossal of an undertaking it was to shift from classroom to remote teaching.

I am proud of our local school district. I am not going to speak for the others.

It’s a lot more work, no doubt. But it’s also more work for parents working from home and having to walk a 6 or 7 year old through their on line classes. and that’s just if it’s one young one. Older kids need less assistance

[notorious]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Almost every teacher I know, both at the school I run as well as at my kids' schools, is in absolute mourning for the school year and at not being able to see their kids again. Every single one of them would return to work tomorrow gladly if they were able.

My school is a high school, so the advisors to the seniors are especially torn up.

This 100%

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Almost every teacher I know, both at the school I run as well as at my kids' schools, is in absolute mourning for the school year and at not being able to see their kids again. Every single one of them would return to work tomorrow gladly if they were able.

My school is a high school, so the advisors to the seniors are especially torn up.

I guess I just assume teachers hate their jobs because I hate kids and I'd hate my job if it meant dealing with other people's kids every day. Thankfully, everyone isn't me.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 2112

It’s a lot more work, no doubt. But it’s also more work for parents working from home and having to walk a 6 or 7 year old through their on line classes. and that’s just if it’s one young one. Older kids need less assistance

Tell me about it and now imagine your kids in French school , I am fluent in French but school French May as well be Chinese and then combine that with the fact I never did homework it sucks.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by SupDock

All you can do is state what you believe to be correct. Requesting anything else is unreasonable, and likely not achievable.

If you required a death certificate to be 100 percent accurate, people wouldn't fill it out.

Everything Supdock said was dead on , my wife was a Coroner for 10+ years.