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***OFFICIAL 2019 Chiefs Training Camp Thread***
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In the meantime, this gem from Andy Reid's press conference today:
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08-01-2019, 03:12 PM | #1786 | |
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I think they made their choice with Frank Clark because realistically Clark, Tyreek and Pat will be taking up about roughly 30% of the cap alone in 2020, assuming that Mahomes deal is backloaded. That’s just 3 guys alone. I just don’t see how they can fit Chris Jones in there without completely limiting themselves of any cap space for the next 4 years. I don’t even know if signing a guy like Darron Lee is feasible if he performs. He’ll probably want over $15 million AAV like these other backers are getting. I’m thinking a purge will be coming next Spring. Sammy, Colquitt, LDT, Sorenson, Jones, etc. Think we are on the same page. Next year Veach is gonna have to operate like Chris Ballard |
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08-01-2019, 03:13 PM | #1787 |
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If you buy into Twitter dude who called Watkins signing and the Clark deal he says Hill and Jones deals are both close...
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08-01-2019, 03:13 PM | #1788 | |
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I don't really know shit about the salary cap or ways to cheat it |
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08-01-2019, 03:19 PM | #1789 | |
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Give that man an under the table ownership deal, Clark!! |
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08-01-2019, 03:21 PM | #1790 | |
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No, the NFL is pretty strict about teams openly circumventing the cap. Any bonus you give him will be prorated over the length of the deal (max 5 years) and for QBs, those bonuses have gotten so high that they hurt either way. You can push the pain for a season with the Dorsey trick of a super low year 1 base and a high bonus, but Steinberg won't let Mahomes sign a contract that doesn't give him the highest AAV, highest guarantees and highest 'paper value' of any QB in football history, nor should he. And no matter how you structure that one, it's gonna sting in a big way. Best you can do is delay the hurt and all that will do is make it bite more in subsequent years. |
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08-01-2019, 03:24 PM | #1791 |
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Unless one of them plays out of their minds, I think Breeland and Fuller are both gone. Veach is gonna have to stop ****ing around and invest a high pick in the position finally.
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08-01-2019, 03:29 PM | #1792 | |
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Even if he plays great and tests free agency, teams just aren't going to give him a bonkers deal and end up depending on him as their best LB (ala what we did with Hitchens) And I also think we should try to keep either Sorensen or Lucas. Sorensen really isn't that expensive going into the final year of his contract in 2020, and if you prefer Lucas, he's going to be even cheaper than Sorensen to re-sign. And that's just so we don't have to spend so much draft stock on the safety position when we JUST got it decently fixed. We can nibble around the edges like that and still fit all of our guys in as long as we're willing to let a few of the bigger money starters walk. |
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08-01-2019, 03:33 PM | #1793 | |
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I'd be just fine with average CB play out of either of those dudes and a deal in the 3 year/$18 million range for them. I'd like to bring one of them back for sure. If they play out of their minds they're getting into the Kyle Fuller level of deal where talking $14 million/season for 4 seasons. You can't just go gutting significant parts of your defense every season, there has to be at least a little bit of throughput. If they both play out of their minds we go 16-0, walk to a 'ship and whatever will be will be. But if all they do is go give us pretty decent play, then they can either get a deal along the lines of Nelson's deal, which isn't worth the paper it's printed on (it's effectively a 1 year deal worth $9 million, regardless of what the overall value says) or take an 'actually want to play out the duration of the contract' deal with graduate salary increases that will pay them in the 6-7 million per range. |
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08-01-2019, 03:42 PM | #1794 | |
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08-01-2019, 03:45 PM | #1795 |
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If they get Jones and Reek deals done, then they should tag Fuller and spend a high pick on a corner.
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08-01-2019, 04:33 PM | #1796 |
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Well we aren't going to HAVE a high pick to spend on corner unless we trade up.
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08-01-2019, 04:34 PM | #1797 |
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08-01-2019, 04:43 PM | #1798 |
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I feel like to get a legit corner you need to either get lucky or draft in the top 15. When people say we need to invest in a corner with a high pick I'm just saying it's either get a second rounder or get a top 15 player because the in-between has a ton of risk.
This past draft would have been a perfect time but we got very unlucky with 7 corners getting taken like right before we drafted. Even my sleeper of Bunting was gone. |
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08-01-2019, 05:26 PM | #1799 | |
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Without trying to be too harsh on those guys, they kinda feel like second tier mercenaries, which is fine to a point obviously... but sooner or later Veach needs to start growing his own first tier talent at CB |
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08-01-2019, 05:31 PM | #1800 |
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Pick 32 would have gotten a premier, day-1 starting CB in this year’s draft.
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