Chiefs draft rumor & plans for virtual draft

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Losing Wiz, but Rankin was rock solid in the time he saw last year with above average pass pro. Think we’ll take an OL in the mid rds for depth.

As much as some of you won’t like it, they’ll surely be thinking if Speaks as an Ogbah replacement. He’s not popular but he did show flashes playing as a freaking 280 lb LB (thanks Sutton). They’ll probably add another DE too but before we write Speaks off, remember Kpass being in a similar situation.

I think LB and corner are sure bets in this draft with some kind of weapon taken in the first 3 picks. Just not sure if that weapon taken early will be a WR or RB.

Agreed on Ogbah and was typing the same comments when I read your post.

While the Chiefs may or may not take an interior lineman with one of their 2020 selections, the Practice Squad increased from 10-14 and for the first time, veteran players can be assigned to the squad. The roster size increases from 53 to 58.

Considering that Reid's offensive lines have seen UDFA's, 6th and 7th round former draft picks become viable starters during his tenure, I think it's a safe bet that we'll see an increased number of offensive lineman on the Practice Squad and 58 man roster.

Reid's had very good luck with developing those kind of players over the years and with a limited number of picks in 2020, there's a good chance we'll see more of those types of guys on the 90 as they head into TC.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Losing Wiz, but Rankin was rock solid in the time he saw last year with above average pass pro. Think we’ll take an OL in the mid rds for depth.

As much as some of you won’t like it, they’ll surely be thinking if Speaks as an Ogbah replacement. He’s not popular but he did show flashes playing as a freaking 280 lb LB (thanks Sutton). They’ll probably add another DE too but before we write Speaks off, remember Kpass being in a similar situation.

I think LB and corner are sure bets in this draft with some kind of weapon taken in the first 3 picks. Just not sure if that weapon taken early will be a WR or RB.

No problem putting the blame on Sutton, but why would Veach even draft a guy who didn't fit the scheme at the time?

Also, ESPN did an article on players from each team that would suffer most from missing the off-season. Teicher picked Speaks for the Chiefs.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

No problem putting the blame on Sutton, but why would Veach even draft a guy who didn't fit the scheme at the time?

Also, ESPN did an article on players from each team that would suffer most from missing the off-season. Teicher picked Speaks for the Chiefs.

Speaks played DE, DT and some stand up LB at Ole Miss. He was a very versatile player in college.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't think of Higgins as comparable to those others. For me it is

Jeudy in his own tier

Then Lamb

Then Jefferson

After that Ruggs, KJ Hamler, Pittman, Shenault, Aiyuk all in a cluster

Then after that Mims and Higgins

Then you are looking at a Reagor, Mooney, etc

If we were to take a WR at the end of the 1st (assuming Jeudy, Lamb, and Jefferson gone) I would think about KJ Hamler.

Next year you move Hardman into Watkins spot (but play him as a vertical decoy) and wreck people with Hill, Hamler, Kelce and the running game.

I would slot them as:

Jeudy

Ruggs, Lamb, Jefferson

Mims, Higgins, Aiyuk

I'm not nearly that high on Hamler and don't think the Chiefs need another WR like that. They need a more physical receiver like Mims or Jefferson or Shenault or Aigyuk to replace Watkins. Hardman is a speed/slot guy, but doesn't have the physicality of Sammy.

Originally Posted by JakeF

Chiefs need to draft well because we aren't any better than we were last year.

QB - still a beast
WRs - same
Oline - worse, Wisniewski to Remmers. Is Remmer going to be a swing OT or LG? I don't want Wylie to start at LG anymore. I think we got worse.
TEs - same (jones is a better receiver but can't run block, pass block is ok)
RBs - same

DL - worse, loss of Ogbah
LBs - worse, loss of Lee, Ragland
CBs - worse, loss of Fuller, Breeland
Safeties - same if Thornhill comes back from injury

A whole lot of "pending" worse for a super bowl team. We better have a damn good draft. We need players than can produce in their 1st year.

It's way too early to compare this year's roster to last year's. Draft, end of FA will drastically change things.

It's not just about the draft. It's about what they will do with the cap space freed up by working out the final solution with Jones - either trading him or extending him will free up a lot of cap space.

They'll likely use that to address one of those problem spots you're talking about.

If Jones gets something like 5/$110m, with $25 million in signing bonus, his year 1 cap hit is likely going to be something like $6-7 million. That would free up basically $10 million clear of the cap needed for the draft pool. maybe some of that chips in towards a Mahomes extension. Or, maybe, that's used to bring back Breeland or sign Eli Apple and add a DE like Markus Golden who can help.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I would slot them as:

Jeudy

Ruggs, Lamb, Jefferson

Mims, Higgins, Aiyuk

I'm not nearly that high on Hamler and don't think the Chiefs need another WR like that. They need a more physical receiver like Mims or Jefferson or Shenault or Aigyuk to replace Watkins. Hardman is a speed/slot guy, but doesn't have the physicality of Sammy.



It's way too early to compare this year's roster to last year's. Draft, end of FA will drastically change things.

It's not just about the draft. It's about what they will do with the cap space freed up by working out the final solution with Jones - either trading him or extending him will free up a lot of cap space.

They'll likely use that to address one of those problem spots you're talking about.

If Jones gets something like 5/$110m, with $25 million in signing bonus, his year 1 cap hit is likely going to be something like $6-7 million. That would free up basically $10 million clear of the cap needed for the draft pool. maybe some of that chips in towards a Mahomes extension. Or, maybe, that's used to bring back Breeland or sign Eli Apple and add a DE like Markus Golden who can help.

Aiyuk starts as a slot only so he might be the only guy who doesn't fit here in that tier as Reid wants his WR's to have versatility. It's true that Hamler is not big and won't grab contested catches. But I don't care about that since what he does do is better...separate and get open. When you have a Rodgers or in our case a Mahomes..give me the guy who just gets open and is a TD if they make the slightest mistake. Explosive playmakers..keep adding.

Jefferson does fit that go get it guy but I expect he will be gone.

Mims is fine somewhere but he just doesn't do what Hamler does. He would be fine to add if we waited till the late 2nd early 3rd but I also suspect that teams will overvalue him. He just doesn't have that wow factor to me.

BTW, Louis Riddick who is friends with Veach just ended the ESPN draft special by saying watch out for KJ Hamler. He's the guy that's going high that the mock drafters keep ignoring.

[RunKC]

Not specifically Chiefs rumor related but overall the rumors floating around is that a lot of teams are nervous about ****ing this draft up bc of this situation.

Geoff Schwartz made a good point about how teams will take the players first with the most complete scouting profile, basically guys from big schools and no injury concerns.

Makes me think some damn good steals could fall a rd like Bryce Hall.