***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

So, you would rather those 82 million just die already?

And if they could hurry up and get it over with we could all get back to watching live sports and stuff......

[Monticore]

How come we can never get Flu induced orgasims .

[dirk digler]

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Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Monday that earlier projections of the disease's death toll in the United States assumed roughly half of Americans "would pay attention to the recommendations" first issued in March.

But now, "what we're seeing is a large majority of the American public are taking the social-distancing recommendations to heart," Redfield told AM 1030 KVOI Radio in Tucson, Ariz. "And I think that's the direct consequence of why you're seeing the numbers are going to be much, much, much, much lower than would have been predicted by the models."

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

How come we can never get Flu induced orgasims .

You mean you don't???

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

.

Excellent

[tk13]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I had to stop reading after that. You think we can just have 100's of millions of tests lying around, the resources to get people to testing facilities, the resources to perform the tests and the resources to process the tests in a time that would be even borderline acceptable?

I never said 100s of millions of tests. That's absurd. In the early days of this many states were testing a few people per day. Things have improved but it was already too late. It's an excuse, you could have been testing thousands of people a day if you'd planned it out right.

And it's still true. You are going to have people who are afraid to go out and don't need to be, because you haven't tested.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You mean you don't???

I wish I could embed a Raffi "I cum when I shit" meme right about now.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by stumppy

I'd bet at least 25% of the people on CP have HBP.

There are several lifestyle changes that can be implemented to reduce high blood pressure.

90% of diabetics in the US have Type 2 diabetes... i.e. the lifestyle-caused type.

90% of lung diseases in the US can be attributed to smoking as a primary lifestyle factor.

Personal responsibility and how you take care of yourself will significantly determine your chances of being in the high risk group for COVID-19 deaths/complications.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Monticore

A flu induced heart attack.

There was an article published last week I think that said up 19% of Italy's Covid deaths likely had nothing to do with Covid.

Its hard to believe a lot of what you read so it's hard to believe the data we are getting is very accurate here since almost every report is about under testing, non symptomatic people, and or deaths numbers that all conflict with each other.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

There are several lifestyle changes that can be implemented to reduce high blood pressure.

90% of diabetics in the US have Type 2 diabetes... i.e. the lifestyle-caused type.

90% of lung diseases in the US can be attributed to smoking as a primary lifestyle factor.

Personal responsibility and how you take care of yourself will significantly determine your chances of being in the high risk group for COVID-19 deaths/complications.

We could deal with these pandemics much easier without the need for lockdowns if we made cigarettes and alcohol illegal.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

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[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Donger

Excellent

It was probably the right decision to use a model that predicts half of America being dumb

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It was probably the right decision to use a model that predicts half of America being dumb

I would have estimated higher.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You don't think that they used a figure to estimate compliance? That seems exceedingly unlikely.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Donger

I would have estimated higher.