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04-06-2020, 11:29 AM | #17311 |
King Shit of **** Mountain
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And surely nobody would end up with a huge DNA database...
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04-06-2020, 11:30 AM | #17312 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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When Trump says "anyone can get tested..." he was only half wrong. There WERE massive amounts of test kits, but they were being withheld because we had nothing resembling the ability to provide meaningful results to meaningful numbers. So yeah, Bill Gates (sigh) is suggesting a solid path - but it's also a useless suggestion because it says NOTHING about our ability to process those results. Or the fact that you'd probably need to get one of those things once a month for it to matter at all - because being healthy on 4/6 says nothing about where you'll be on 5/6. You say 'scale is still an issue' but the bottom line is that scale has been THE issue the entire time and there's no reason to believe it's clearly a solvable one. At least not while we still have an N of 345+ million of uninfected people who's bodies have no natural immunity to the thing. That N has to come down substantially for any attempts at a mass testing protocol to be useful. Then you're working with numbers that are closer to being truly scaleable. |
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04-06-2020, 11:30 AM | #17313 |
Time Keeps On Slipping
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I firmly believe that the measures put in place have paid dividends.
I know the economy is suffering tremendously and that shit sucks because it literally affects EVERYONE. However, I feel like if we went with the BIG_DADDY model, we would be dealing with some apocalyptic shit. This thing is just too weird in every bad way. |
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04-06-2020, 11:30 AM | #17314 |
Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
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04-06-2020, 11:32 AM | #17315 |
In Search of a Life
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I think the issue with the models is we’re finding out there is some natural innate immunity to this thing. Also the asymptomatic carriers and such.
The at home test would have to be serology tests anyway. |
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04-06-2020, 11:33 AM | #17316 | |
"Think BOOM!"
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04-06-2020, 11:38 AM | #17317 |
Woman should only make babies
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04-06-2020, 11:38 AM | #17318 | |
The Constitutional Choo choo
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04-06-2020, 11:42 AM | #17319 |
The Beast Inside Your Head
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I told you it wasnt going to be that bad.
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04-06-2020, 11:43 AM | #17320 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
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Regarding healthcare workers: 14 percent of those infected in Spain as of last week were healthcare professionals, around 3000 of the reported cases in China were in healthcare, and at least 200 in NYC were sick (from a NYT article on 3/30). That's a lot of infections, and moving it up to true 100% capacity would have made only increased the probability of additional infections further. Also, if you put less innate strain on the system, you give the suppliers more time to replenish: PPE, pharmaceuticals, etc. |
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04-06-2020, 11:44 AM | #17321 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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You get to stay home indefinitely? Or is there some number of positive tests where we just push the 'endemic' button and move forward? There just aren't any simple answers here. Yes, we took steps that have almost certainly helped significantly in keeping up front cases law. And as I said when Cuomo was holding fire (and then when he actually pulled the trigger), I thought NY handled this almost perfectly. They're such a unique and bizarre animal that they simply could not just try to 'stamp it out' because it would accomplish nothing there apart from making the eventual secondary spike worse. Ideally they pegged this thing and in so doing, have created enough buffer that when things re-open, some natural immunity will decrease carriers and renewed spread will be slower and more organic. But that's exactly why it's so critical to time it right and not just assume that more immediate is better. |
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04-06-2020, 11:44 AM | #17322 |
In Search of a Life
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04-06-2020, 11:44 AM | #17323 |
Time Keeps On Slipping
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At first, I was pissed at Laura Kelly for taking the drastic step of shutting the schools down so freaking early but now I see she was actually paying attention and doing the right thing. That's a good leader.
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04-06-2020, 11:47 AM | #17324 | |
In Search of a Life
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The problem with the immunity thing is we just don’t know how far it is. It maybe is widespread and enough that we’re immune I doubt it but It’s possible You need to start randomly sampling to find out |
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04-06-2020, 11:50 AM | #17325 |
Now you've pissed me off!
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How about we just have enough patience to see if this really is the peak. And if it is the peak, from there we have enough patience to coast down the other side of the peak until we put out the first to a great extent. And from there, we can work much harder on isolating and contact tracing any new cases that pop up as we gradually open up with greater social distancing and use of PPE in public.
Patience. This is NYC getting to and over the peak, hopefully. It's not every region in the country. |
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