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*****The Skyy Moore Thread*****
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10-25-2022, 10:29 AM | #1696 | |
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What do you even mean "play their position"? Hardman won't ever be mistaken for Jerry Rice, but IIRC, you were on board with trading away the best all around WR in his prime the Chiefs have ever had and going with the "depth" approach. Well, Hardman absolutely is imperative in that as we've seen. |
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10-25-2022, 10:32 AM | #1697 | |
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I just can't even imagine where you're getting this or what point you're trying to make here. This is just so wrong. And it doesn't even get into the points previously raised regarding unique skill-sets. You made up your mind on Hardman some time ago - we get it. |
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10-25-2022, 10:37 AM | #1698 | |
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He seems like a luxury piece that should be replaced in the draft next year. Perhaps with a taller, stronger Calvin Austin |
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10-25-2022, 11:04 AM | #1699 | |
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A Chris Jones extension would help. I think LT will have a smaller number next year than it does this year (either via a LTC or Draft pick). I haven't looked at WR in the draft - you may be right. But again I have to note that you're talking about yet ANOTHER steep learning curve at the position. Ultimately Moore's development likely makes the decision for you. But I think to some extent Moore and JJSS are more redundant than Moore and Hardman. They are going to occupy the same spaces (and oftentimes spaces occupied by Travis Kelce). They do things differently but in the same places on the field. I mean 60% of Moore's routes in college were slants, curls and/or flat routes. That's...high. And it's where JJSS makes a lot of his bones as well. Moore coming along may make it LESS likely they retain JJSS and more likely they retain Hardman. I think that runs in the face of conventional wisdom but the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me. I don't know - it's all a little odd. They're using JJSS as a boundary player but having him run conventional slot routes. I still haven't quite wrapped my head around how all these pieces are working together. |
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10-25-2022, 11:30 AM | #1700 | |
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10-25-2022, 11:49 AM | #1701 |
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10-25-2022, 11:53 AM | #1702 |
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10-25-2022, 12:06 PM | #1703 | |
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Reid doesn't run crossers AT each other. Hardman is supposed to draw coverage back so Moore can run underneath it. Tough look for sure and not an 'improvised' situation. He just ran a shitty route there on a play clearly schemed up for him. |
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10-25-2022, 12:35 PM | #1706 | |
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Great illustration of Moore’s poorly run route. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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10-25-2022, 01:28 PM | #1707 |
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It’s worth pointing out that quote from Andy came on a question about Patrick. For Andy to go out of his way to clarify Skyy had fault for that play felt like a professional call out from Reid (professional since he layered it with praise for Skyy) especially as he could have chalked up the INT to miscommunication. Clarifying Skyy had fault felt like an intentional move there.
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10-25-2022, 02:12 PM | #1708 | |
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You guys are acting like he is irreplaceable. So if a team offers him $12 million or more should we pay it? I mean damn man. There are options with 4.3 speed out there if we don’t wanna pay that much. One was Calvin Austin who the Steelers drafted on day 3. DJ loved him too |
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10-25-2022, 02:14 PM | #1709 | |
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess he doesn't get near that, but if so, move on. I'm sorry he pissed in your cheerios |
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10-25-2022, 02:28 PM | #1710 | |
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It's essentially a 1 year, $9 million dollar deal with team options for $9 million and $12 million thereafter. If necessary, I'd go ahead and effectively lock in the 2nd year and make it a 2 year, $18 million deal w/ an option for a 3rd at $12 million. He's an extremely young player who has improved here. Throwing that out because he didn't hit the ground at 100 mph (and remember, I have never liked the pick) is just awfully reckless, IMO. Now if the money doesn't work, it doesn't work. I think JJSS or Hardman is a false choice - we can make that work. But if it's Hardman or Thornhill? Hmmmmm.....now we're making things tough. I think I'd rather have Thornhill. But my justifications are similar, both guys offer something that's not as easy to get as is being suggested. |
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