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Sammy Watkins mulling sitting out 2020 season
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I appreciate Watkins being open about this. Curious to see if the Chiefs would be cool with him skipping OTAs if we signed a team friendly extension. I do think this really cools the trade market for him. Going to be interesting. Quote:
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02-07-2020, 06:09 PM | #153 |
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He may have nightmares of being traded to the Browns. shudder
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02-07-2020, 07:31 PM | #154 |
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Sammy has always been soft physically and reading between the lines it looks like he is soft emotionally and especially mentally. Don't get me wrong here, I love what Sammy can do on the field. Like I said, he has the best first move after the catch in order to keep the play going that I have ever seen.
But after reading this article and him acknowledging that he has many personal goals as WR not yet attained and a lot more football in him, doesn't say that he has that passion to continue to play the game. I think what he is really saying actually "to himself" is "why do I feel I have to possibly take a year off to clear my head when I am still young and have many personal WR goals to attain?". On the surface, it appears like burnout BUT I really don't think it is. I think when he came here he entered the AR offense and he never worked harder in his life emotionally and mentally as WR in this complex very taxing offense to become that WR that Reid wanted. I really do think his softness physically, emotionally and mentally comes from past NFL teams trying to take his game to the next level and he wasn't willing to work that hard and the way he combated taking his game to the next level was injuries(in the unconscious that would finally surface) and he did here as well but AR was patient but still pushed him. My point is this, Sammy has never had to work that hard at WR because of his extreme physical talent until he came here and AR challenging him everyday. I don't think it's so much about being burned out as it is "how bad do I really love football" to continue to work this hard to not only be a SB champion but even more so to attain those personal goals as a WR. This is what I read between the lines in this article. |
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02-08-2020, 01:52 AM | #156 |
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If we lose Watkins and DRob (likely) surely we have to be looking at drafting a receiver in the 2nd round.
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But like I said, don't take my word for it; simply watch almost any video of Jerry talking about his career. But Jerry might be a bad example, as he is the GOAT. Take Hill if you want. He didn't develop into a complete WR receiver until last year (his third year). In Tyreek's ifrst year he was a return specialist that they occasionally put in the offense. In his second year he ran a lot more plays as a WR, but he still was pretty raw, his route running had improved but still wasn't better than average, but he seemed to have a knack for tracking the ball and improvisation. Last year his route running took a big jump. He's running his stems like a real WR, he has learned how to hand-fight and use his feet to get away from jams at the line, and he's consistently stepping on the toes of his defenders. All I'm saying is that Hardman is starting from a place of a lot less experience than where Tyreek started. And judging from his performances in the play-offs he still has a long way to go before he's going to be a legitimate WR2. |
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02-08-2020, 12:42 PM | #162 |
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This almost seems like a negotiating ploy contrived by an agent. Chiefs will be fine at WR w/o DROB or Watkins. They can easily plug and play a new receiver in the WR3 spot. (If Watkins & DROB leave, they will likely look for someone with size as Hill and Hardman are smaller WRs.)
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Another thought I had.
Hardman had 26 catches for 538 yards and 6 TDs in his rookie season when he apparently knew nothing about the offense or route running. Is it expected that he learns and develops and improves in that area? Of course-- he's a freaking 2nd round pick. If he doesn't, or he doesn't improve much in that area? Those numbers are still better than any other single season output by a drafted Chiefs WR not named Tyreek Hill. He got those 26 catches on 41 targets, which is a catch percentage of 63%. That's not the best, but it's actually probably about average or a little better than average for deep threat WRs. If he boosts his efficiency up even a little bit, he's all of a sudden somebody who can serve as that 3rd threat behind Kelce and Hill. The route running thing would probably get him more targets, but not necessarily boost that efficiency. I'm not saying it's fine if he doesn't really dive in and make learning to be a complete NFL WR his #1 goal this offseason and beyond. But if he fails in that goal or it takes him longer than we'd like it to take? He's still a damn good player who will undoubtedly outperform Kemp, Pringle, or even a somehow re-signed Robinson in 2020. Having Watkins on the field will make Hardman a better player. If we have to plug in Hardman to replace Watkins, I'd actually argue that we're not going to lose THAT much on offense. The key following that then becomes finding a player who can be the 3rd WR that Hardman was for us, even if he's not in the mold of a super fast deep threat. I don't really believe that guy is on this roster, so it will be interesting to see if Veach goes to the draft (even though he has limited picks this year) or if he finds something in the dumpster like he did for a bunch of other positions this year. |
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02-17-2020, 01:04 PM | #164 |
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For all the “nobody will trade for Sammy with one year left on his deal” folks, this is pretty common. Darius Slay has one year left on his deal and he’s 29. New team will simply rework with a new deal.
Sammy is 26 and just showed his value. If Emmanuel Sanders old ass netted a 3rd, than that’s Sammy’s market. And yes some team should be interested. |
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02-17-2020, 01:11 PM | #165 |
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