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Old 09-22-2019, 02:49 PM  
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Lamar Jackson
I was pretty skeptical about him but he is legit. If the Ravens keep the D up as they always do I can see many battles in the playoffs against them for awhile.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:11 AM   #151
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Jackson is athletic and elusive, so he is dangerous. But a below average passer. His best pass of the day was a jump ball prayer that should have been picked off by Ward. They're the type of team that is hard to blow out, but they will struggle to beat top QBs
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:26 AM   #152
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Which is a big if. But by the team he does, he'll be out of the league with injury.
I sure as shit hope he doesn't develop accuracy.
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:34 AM   #153
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Jackson is athletic and elusive, so he is dangerous. But a below average passer. His best pass of the day was a jump ball prayer that should have been picked off by Ward. They're the type of team that is hard to blow out, but they will struggle to beat top QBs
They are the KC Chiefs of the 90's.
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:42 AM   #154
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Jackson is 22 in 3/4 years...25/26. Most world class sprinters are just entering their prime at that age. Great Britians Linford Christie was 32 when he won the Olympic 100m in 1992.

Why try and compare any of these cats today to back in day? Who was Patrick Mahomes once upon a time? Jackson is obviously a different breed of cat.
lmfao you are really trying to compare a contact sport to a non contact sport? if sprinters were constantly getting hit they would lose their speed. you sir, are dumb
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:57 AM   #155
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I sure as shit hope he doesn't develop accuracy.
Accuracy generally doesn't develop. You either have it or you don't. They can try to fix mechanical issues but that's hard to do when they're trying to take advantage of his gifts, one of which affects his pocket footwork.

He most likely is what he is.
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Old 09-25-2019, 07:50 AM   #156
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Accuracy generally doesn't develop. You either have it or you don't. They can try to fix mechanical issues but that's hard to do when they're trying to take advantage of his gifts, one of which affects his pocket footwork.

He most likely is what he is.
Mahomes was a more accurate passer in his first season than Alex ever was.
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:27 AM   #157
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Accuracy generally doesn't develop. You either have it or you don't. They can try to fix mechanical issues but that's hard to do when they're trying to take advantage of his gifts, one of which affects his pocket footwork.

He most likely is what he is.
Yeah, I don't think his footwork is the issue. He's probably just inaccurate. Where he might develop is reading defenses. Which seems to be his bigger step forward from last year. He didn't throw a lot of dumb passes Sunday
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Old 09-25-2019, 09:21 AM   #158
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Yeah, I don't think his footwork is the issue. He's probably just inaccurate. Where he might develop is reading defenses. Which seems to be his bigger step forward from last year. He didn't throw a lot of dumb passes Sunday
Well, one way to improve accuracy is to improve footwork and mechanics, at least for pocket guys.

And that was my point, making Jackson a pocket QB neutralizes one of his biggest discriminating factors. So it's highly unlikely there's anything they can do to improve his accuracy at this point.
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Old 09-25-2019, 09:24 AM   #159
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Well, one way to improve accuracy is to improve footwork and mechanics, at least for pocket guys.

And that was my point, making Jackson a pocket QB neutralizes one of his biggest discriminating factors. So it's highly unlikely there's anything they can do to improve his accuracy at this point.
I watched the broadcast last night and it's just as obvious as it was at the game that he can't make throws consistently.

The announcers kept saying "he throws from different platforms" like it's a good thing.

Yes, Mahomes can do it and do it with accuracy. Mere mortals can't. It's no coincidence that the most accurate guys have the most repeatable motions.

Accuracy is a feel thing. I don't think it's something you can really develop, more than say going from a B- to a B or whatever.

Jackson will always be a pest to play because of the athleticism and playmaking ability.

But if you can make him have to throw to beat you, it just isn't gonna happen.
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The Ravens offense is pound the ball, run play action and take deep shots. Great during the regular season against lesser teams. It’s not going to work against a team like the Chiefs or the Pats.
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Well, one way to improve accuracy is to improve footwork and mechanics, at least for pocket guys.

And that was my point, making Jackson a pocket QB neutralizes one of his biggest discriminating factors. So it's highly unlikely there's anything they can do to improve his accuracy at this point.
Nailed it.
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I watched the broadcast last night and it's just as obvious as it was at the game that he can't make throws consistently.

The announcers kept saying "he throws from different platforms" like it's a good thing.

Yes, Mahomes can do it and do it with accuracy. Mere mortals can't. It's no coincidence that the most accurate guys have the most repeatable motions.

Accuracy is a feel thing. I don't think it's something you can really develop, more than say going from a B- to a B or whatever.

Jackson will always be a pest to play because of the athleticism and playmaking ability.

But if you can make him have to throw to beat you, it just isn't gonna happen.
Yep.
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lmfao you are really trying to compare a contact sport to a non contact sport? if sprinters were constantly getting hit they would lose their speed. you sir, are dumb
You obviously know..0..about any of this.

There have been TONS of x-track sprinters play pro football, talking.....TONS! Our very own Jamaal Charles was a stud sprinter (10.18) and hurdler, how long did his jets burn and he took far more hits than any QB will take. At 29 he was averaging 5.1 a carry, he was no power back.

Bob Hayes was still running a 4.4 AFTER his football career, he ran some pro track.

Getting hit has...0...to do with anyone losing that speed, where did you come up with that ridiculous idea?

Cliff Branch was a world class sprinter at Colorado, how many seasons did we see him blow by defenders? He played until he was 36, why....yep...speed.

Darrell green was running 4.4 at 40.

How long has Ted Ginn Jr, been blowing by defenders?

How long has Desuen Jackson been blowing by defenders?

Ever hear anyone say...."he has lost a step"....talking Randy Moss?

Watch how five years from now Tyreek Hill is STILL the fastest player in the NFL.

There was never a time in his career where Eric (9.4 HS) Dickerson couldn't go the distance.

Lamar Jackson is going to be getting faster/quicker, there is noway he has peaked out yet at 22/23.
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He ain't wrong. Players will loose some steam as they age in terms of speed and obviously serious injuries can be a factor... but guys who are fast are still fast in their 30's.

I don't know or care if Steve Smith ran track, but he was still fast as shit when he retired.

I'd argue a lot of players continue to get FASTER until their mid/late 20's.
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He ain't wrong. Players will loose some steam as they age in terms of speed and obviously serious injuries can be a factor... but guys who are fast are still fast in their 30's.

I don't know or care if Steve Smith ran track, but he was still fast as shit when he retired.

I'd argue a lot of players continue to get FASTER until their mid/late 20's.
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We will see that once awhile cat who never ran faster after HS like a Derrick Florence, Carter Suggs, Preston Griffen, Trendarvis Friday but they are rare.

Most world class sprinters/running backs/WR/cornerbacks don't hit that peak speed until around 25/27ish and are very capable of sustaining/maintaining those jets up into their early 30's.

The World Champs of Track & Field start in a few days, who is the defending World Champion in the 100, the 35 year old Justin Gatlin.

When did Gatlin run his PR


2001 10.08 17 Eugene Jun 02
2002 10.05 15 Knoxville Apr 06
2003 9.97 5 Zürich Aug 15
2004 9.85 1 Athens Aug 22
2005 9.88 2 Helsinki Aug 07
2006 9.77 1 Doha May 12
2011 9.95 16 Eugene, OR Jun 24
2012 9.79 3 London Aug 05
2013 9.85 3 Moskva Aug 11
2014 9.77 1 Bruxelles Sep 05
2015 9.74 1 Doha May 15************************
2016 9.80 1 Eugene, OR Jul 03
2017 9.92 5 London (Olympic Stadium) Aug

Former World Champion Kim Collins ran his PR in his last season.


2001 10.00 8 Edmonton Aug 04
2002 9.98 9 Manchester Jul 27
2003 9.99 8 Zürich Aug 15
2004 10.00 9 Athens Aug 22
2005 10.00 9 London (CP) Jul 22
2011 10.00 23 Guadalajara, MEX Oct 24
2012 10.01 21 Zürich Aug 30
2013 9.97 12 Lausanne Jul 04
2014 9.96 10 London Jul 20
2015 9.98 24 Basseterre Jun 13
2016 9.93 10 Bottrop May 29*************************

And that kind of thing goes on and on.........
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