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Old 01-01-2024, 11:36 AM  
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*****Official 2024 Royals Season Repository Thread*****





Year Two of the Matt Quatraro tenure. Time to take a step up this year. Active in free agency and trades this offseason. A new look pitching rotation and bullpen. Will the young players take the leap up offensively? Bobby Witt extension? New stadium? Will Vinny recover from injury? Salvy taking aim at the Royals record book? Will Cole Ragans turn into the best Royals starting pitcher since Greinke 1.0?

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Seth Lugo, SP
Michael Wacha, SP
Kyle Wright, SP
Hunter Renfroe, OF/DH
Will Smith, RP
Chris Stratton, RP
Nick Anderson, RP
Adam Frazier, 2B
Garrett Hampson, INF/OF
Matt Sauer, RP

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Old Today, 10:51 AM   #1606
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I really don't get why Jac Caglianone only has a 70 power grade on a few sites. The guy hit a 516 ft HR. He had 9 straight games with a HR. If he's not an 80 power guy to some publications, then idk who is.
I heard one scout say they would have him at 80 power but they are worried about his chase rate vs professional pitching. If this was the 90's nobody would give a shit about his chase rate. I get worried about chase rate more when guys can't hit baseballs. Like Pratto and Melendez have decent power, but they just don't have the elite skill to put bat on the ball. Caglianone has the potential to do that. We all hope he becomes more patient and nukes what he knows he can hit but it's worked for Salvy despite the patience.
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Old Today, 11:13 AM   #1607
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Old Today, 01:27 PM   #1608
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I heard one scout say they would have him at 80 power but they are worried about his chase rate vs professional pitching. If this was the 90's nobody would give a shit about his chase rate. I get worried about chase rate more when guys can't hit baseballs. Like Pratto and Melendez have decent power, but they just don't have the elite skill to put bat on the ball. Caglianone has the potential to do that. We all hope he becomes more patient and nukes what he knows he can hit but it's worked for Salvy despite the patience.
What scout was that, cuz that makes them sound dumb as shit. His chase rate shouldn't have any influence on his power rating though. Use that chase rate to lower his hit rate, but to say his power isn't at the top of the charts because he chases pitches is ridiculous.

Also, last year looks like he got a lot better at avoiding strikeouts. He only had 26 Ks vs 27 actual walks (31 of his walks were intentional.

His ****ing power numbers are literally insane over his collegiate career, which was basically a full MLB season worth of games

165 games - 75 HRs and 28 2Bs. That's just shy of a HR every other game.

I'm so excited about this kid.
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Old Today, 01:54 PM   #1609
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God damn it now I am too excited. If they do decide to just have him hit (which I ultimately think the Royals will sooner than later) when is he estimated to hit the majors?
He could be a 2025 debut guy if they sent him on an aggressive assignment (at least High-A to start) and had him perform so well he got at least a cup of coffee at AA. It's really about how he acclimates and how fast he shows he is ready to move up.

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I heard one scout say they would have him at 80 power but they are worried about his chase rate vs professional pitching. If this was the 90's nobody would give a shit about his chase rate. I get worried about chase rate more when guys can't hit baseballs. Like Pratto and Melendez have decent power, but they just don't have the elite skill to put bat on the ball. Caglianone has the potential to do that. We all hope he becomes more patient and nukes what he knows he can hit but it's worked for Salvy despite the patience.
Grades get weird... I think the most accurate scouts use a present/future rating for guys.

You could make a case for an 80 on his future power, to represent his potential (though 80 is really intended to be a generational skill, a once-every-10-years type of thing). Like, you'd give Aaron Judge an 80. Probably wouldn't hand that to maybe one more guy in his generation.

I'd probably say a fair and conservative grade on Caglianone is to give him a 55/65 power rating. Aggressive would be 60/70. Both are fair, IMO.
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Old Today, 02:43 PM   #1610
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He could be a 2025 debut guy if they sent him on an aggressive assignment (at least High-A to start) and had him perform so well he got at least a cup of coffee at AA. It's really about how he acclimates and how fast he shows he is ready to move up.



Grades get weird... I think the most accurate scouts use a present/future rating for guys.

You could make a case for an 80 on his future power, to represent his potential (though 80 is really intended to be a generational skill, a once-every-10-years type of thing). Like, you'd give Aaron Judge an 80. Probably wouldn't hand that to maybe one more guy in his generation.

I'd probably say a fair and conservative grade on Caglianone is to give him a 55/65 power rating. Aggressive would be 60/70. Both are fair, IMO.
But was Aaron Judge really thought of as that big of a power hitter? He had 23 HRs in 4 seasons in college and his senior year was the only year he had over 5. As a minor leaguer he only had 20 HRs once. Wouldn't you expect the guy with a 500+ ft HR and a few HR records to be more highly graded than that guy?

Judges back ground doesn't scream "60 HR/season power". Of course he has the size, but shit I wouldn't expect him to be a 30 HR/season guy.

Baseball prospectus had Judge as a 60 for future power. MLB.com had him at 40 for current and 70 for future.
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Old Today, 02:47 PM   #1611
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I would love to see Bobby and Salvy with Jac soon than later
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He could be a 2025 debut guy if they sent him on an aggressive assignment (at least High-A to start) and had him perform so well he got at least a cup of coffee at AA. It's really about how he acclimates and how fast he shows he is ready to move up.



Grades get weird... I think the most accurate scouts use a present/future rating for guys.

You could make a case for an 80 on his future power, to represent his potential (though 80 is really intended to be a generational skill, a once-every-10-years type of thing). Like, you'd give Aaron Judge an 80. Probably wouldn't hand that to maybe one more guy in his generation.

I'd probably say a fair and conservative grade on Caglianone is to give him a 55/65 power rating. Aggressive would be 60/70. Both are fair, IMO.
How many 1b we gonna have?
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Old Today, 03:04 PM   #1613
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The chase rate thing is a little overblown, he was trying to carry his team so he would chase pitches to try to do something. When you are the only guy on your team that can make a difference should you just take walks?
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How many 1b we gonna have?
Well what do you mean when you say that? Like as far as today I see 1.
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