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Old 04-29-2021, 01:21 PM  
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Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay on the Outs?


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Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to return to Green Bay Packers, sources say
Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team, league and team sources told ESPN on Thursday.

The Packers are aware of his feelings, concerned about them and have had team president Mark Murphy, general manager Brian Gutekunst and head coach Matt LaFleur each fly out on separate trips to meet with Rodgers at various points this offseason, sources told ESPN.

"As we've stated since the season ended, we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond," Gutekunst told ESPN. "Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team."

Rodgers has not budged this offseason, but neither have the Packers, who have made it known they are not interested in trading Rodgers anywhere.

The San Francisco 49ers called the Packers on Wednesday night, a source told ESPN, and the Los Angeles Rams inquired about Rodgers in January before they traded for Matthew Stafford.

The Packers quickly dismissed the Rams' overtures, the source said.

The Packers have offered to extend Rodgers' contract, sources told ESPN.

Rodgers is unhappy for a variety of reasons, with some of it dating back to last year's draft when the Packers didn't inform him before trading up to draft a quarterback with their first-round pick. Some took this as a sign that his days in Green Bay could he numbered.

He also is at a different point in his personal life, having recently gotten engaged to actress Shailene Woodley. Rodgers also has hosted "Jeopardy!" and said it would be a dream to become the full-time host. He could play football and host Jeopardy! together.

Rodgers has made cryptic comments about his future in Green Bay, but he has told others that he does not want to return.

On draft night, the Packers' biggest issue isn't who they land, but whether they can keep the former NFL MVP.

Rodgers' contract contained a $6.8 million roster bonus due in March. It could have been converted into a signing bonus that would have freed up more than $4.5 million in salary-cap space for this season but instead it "vested as scheduled," a source told ESPN at the time. It's listed as an automatic conversion in Rodgers' contract but even that has to be signed off on by both parties. It's not known if the Packers tried to convert and Rodgers refused to sign off on it, or if they did not attempt a conversion.
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:28 PM   #1531
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When the Packers get Bradley Chubb and the Broncos only have a declining old Von Miller coming off a major injury....

Against our elite OL
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:28 PM   #1532
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I think trading for the reigning league MVP Aaron Rodgers would be a good exception here. Especially since he fills literally the only hole Denver has on their roster.
Coaching??? Hello!

Your roster is hardly special. How many top 3 players do you have at any position? Mongo? Remember, the NFL told the refs last year to be lenient on holding calls...Don't even mention Miller, because he's old and can't play a full season any longer. Chubb? NEVER lived up to expectations since his rookie season. (Should have kept Barrett and never drafted him) Sutton? Coming off Injury and even healthy, still NOT top 3 talent. Jeudy? Can he even catch? And even if he learns how, he's still nowhere near top 3 talent. Fant? LOL! Nope again.

Holes will be created by the players you'll have to trade, along with draft picks, in order to get Rodgers, which will make it harder to get the talent back.

With Rodgers, Denver still isn't as good as KC. Your ceiling is a 2nd place finish and WC contention. Watch out for Herbert & Co. though, or that could change.

It will be very funny to get Rodgers, so you can compete for a WC spot for 2-3 seasons, and afterwards be right back where you are now, only worse off, with Mahomes still in his prime.
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:29 PM   #1533
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When the Packers get Bradley Chubb and the Broncos only have a declining old Von Miller coming off a major injury....

Against our elite OL
Exactly.
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:31 PM   #1534
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Your roster is hardly special. How many top 3 players do you have at any position? Mongo? Remember, the NFL told the refs last year to be lenient on holding calls...Don't even mention Miller, because he's old and can't play a full season any longer. Chubb? NEVER lived up to expectations since his rookie season. Sutton? Coming off Injury and even healthy, still NOT top 3 talent. Jeudy? Can he even catch? And even if he learns how, he's still nowhere near top 3 talent.

Holes will be created by the players you'll have to trade, along with draft picks, in order to get Rodgers, which will make it harder to get the talent back.

With Rodgers, Denver still isn't as good as KC. Your ceiling is a 2nd place finish and WC contention. Watch out for Herbert & Co. though, or that could change.

It will be very funny to get Rodgers, so you can compete for a WC spot for 2-3 seasons, and afterwards be right back where you are now, only worse off, with Mahomes still in his prime.
To be fair, Justin Simmons is top 3-5 in the league. He's the only one I can think of off-hand though.
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:32 PM   #1535
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“Literally the only hole on their roster”

Yea a team that finished bottom 10 has no other holes on their roster!
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“Literally the only hole on their roster”

Yea a team that finished bottom 10 has no holes on their roster!
4 years in a row...
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:36 PM   #1537
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“Literally the only hole on their roster”

Yea a team that finished bottom 10 has no other holes on their roster!
They do have a talented team. We had like 8 pro bowlers in our worst season ever 10 years ago.

But fortunately for us talent alone can’t beat us unless we have catastrophic injuries
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They do have a talented team. We had like 8 pro bowlers in our worst season ever 10 years ago.

But fortunately for us talent alone can’t beat us unless we have catastrophic injuries
They’re talented, but a lot of it is projection.
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When the Packers get Bradley Chubb and the Broncos only have a declining old Von Miller coming off a major injury....

Against our elite OL
The Packers arent getting anything because they arent trading him....

They wouldn't want Chubb coming off an injury and needing a new contract...

It would be something like Jeudy, Surtain and next years 1st+2nd...cheap rookie labor. Packers already took a 1st round CB this year...

Rodgers would eat up a ton of cap...so they can forget about replacing said players with FAs. They wont have any draft picks in 2022 either...or have a training camp/acclimation period for AR and his new team. Miller will likely be gone in 2022 also...

If this trade happens (it wont)...and they fail to reach the SB, it'll ruin the future of that team for years. They wont have any young, cheap talent until ARs final year (40 years old)...and be just good enough to be out of reach for a top QB. Brady is the exception with longevity at QBs...Rodgers could start to fade at any time. Then you have a really expensive, above average QB...that hasn't made it to a SB in over a decade.
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When the Packers get Bradley Chubb and the Broncos only have a declining old Von Miller coming off a major injury....

Against our elite OL
The Packers are already 3 deep at OLB. They won't want Chubb. They'll probably want players who have more years remaining on their rookie deal like Dremont Jones, Jeudy, Hamler, Risner, Ojemudia.
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Coaching??? Hello!
Vic Fangio and Todd Bowles are the preeminent defensive masterminds in the league right now. Teams all around the league are trying to hire former Fangio staffers to run the defense now. The Packers DC is from the Fangio tree and Denver's OLB from two years ago is now the HC of the Chargers.
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Vic Fangio and Todd Bowles are the preeminent defensive masterminds in the league right now. Teams all around the league are trying to hire former Fangio staffers to run the defense now. The Packers DC is from the Fangio tree and Denver's OLB from two years ago is now the HC of the Chargers.

Again, Coaching.... How many games did Elmer Fudd's bad coaching cost you last season? At least 3. How many the year before? Point is real. Vic is a very bad HC. Next...
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The Packers are already 3 deep at OLB. They won't want Chubb. They'll probably want players who have more years remaining on their rookie deal like Dremont Jones, Jeudy, Hamler, Risner, Ojemudia.
Why stop there? Next try and sell us on them not wanting 1st round picks either...They're not taking trash for the reigning league MVP.
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The Packers are already 3 deep at OLB. They won't want Chubb. They'll probably want players who have more years remaining on their rookie deal like Dremont Jones, Jeudy, Hamler, Risner, Ojemudia.
Good Grief, you would be lucky to get Jordon Love for those guys.
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I think trading for the reigning league MVP Aaron Rodgers would be a good exception here. Especially since he fills literally the only hole Denver has on their roster.
Denver has a last place roster that picked up a few decent players in the draft and free agency, unfortunately for them it will cost them a few good players plus high future picks to get Rodgers.

What would be funny is Denver giving away good players and first rounders for a 37 year old QB that might turn out to be the third best QB in the division.
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