Justin Jefferson gets PAID

[siberian khatru]

A record deal: the Vikings and three-time Pro-Bowl WR Justin Jefferson reached agreement on a four-year, $140 million contract extension that includes $110 million guaranteed and makes him not only the highest-paid WR in NFL history, but the highest-paid non-QB in NFL history,… pic.twitter.com/OAESU3dOop

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) June 3, 2024

[O.city]

Originally Posted by wazu

Yep. It's arguably a flaw in the design of the sport. On a 53-man roster with 22 players on the field at all times, there is this one position that is really all-important. And there are only like 10-15 people in the world who can play it well enough to give you a shot at winning anything meaningful.

Pretty much.

It's also why those guys that can and or have done the winning SB's get paid so much. Just is what it is.

[ThrobProng]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Figures. Should've known that was his new mult from the asinine posts in the lounge and DC.

Cry me a river, Corky.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

If McCarthy is Cousins 2.0, the Vikings should keep him for his career. Cousins has been a perennial top 10ish QB for a while.

If teams wanna keep chasing trying to find the next Mahomes or Josh Allen....well good luck. There's only 2/3 elite level QB's in the league at a time, at best.

And that’s why teams should always stockpile young arms if you don’t have a mahomes. It’s the same question Seattle asked when they gave a big contract to Russell Wilson who was at the time even better than cousins. Even before Russell slid the Seahawks were rumored to be shopping him for many years and everyone thought they were crazy. Hindsight is 20/20 but they weren’t crazy after all.

I think because for so many years QBs were playing for free we forgot that many teams struggle to build a team around a high contract qb who is just good enough. Whether that’s Eli or Flacco or someone as good as Aaron rodgers. Arguably Seattle was really onto something by asking if the team is better off just relentlessly going after young, cheap QBs versus living through purgatory while a “good enough” qb swallows the whole salary cap

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Contracts are stupid and broken

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Best thing you can do IMO is look for a QB with a high ceiling, get a vet and solid coaching in front of him and then surround him with weapons.

It’s far easier to teach a Jordan Love high ceiling QB to read defenses and operate the system than it is a Mac Jones high floor QB to make impressive plays when needed.

The Packers need to be emulated by every team

After watching the NFL for over 40 years, it seems like GB has figured out how to draft and develop QBs much more efficiently than any other franchise. Mainly because they actually take the time to develop their QBs.

The whole "draft and get them on the field as fast as possible so they can get live reps" philosophy has largely been an abject failure league-wide, with literally hundreds of QBs since the early '80s being drafted then thrown to the wolves asap only to fail early and then be tossed aside before they've even fulfilled their 4th year in the league.

Meanwhile, GB has had just three starting QBs, two of whom are HoFers, over the last 20 years. And Jordan Love may well become yet another GB QB that succeeds over the long-term, for the next 10+ years. Maybe he won't, but it sure won't be because they didn't give him enough time to develop.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by O.city

Jimmy G had nearly identical stats in 2019, took them to the SB year and the 9ers traded a couple firsts to go up and get Lance.

So I guess they answered the question for you.

The guy for which SF sent a second round pick to New England? Yeah, they probably didn't see much "upside" in him for pick 43 (IIRC).

Again, I'm not suggesting any of these guys necessarily qualify, but the teams acquiring them at least appeared to believe they did.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

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After watching the NFL for over 40 years, it seems like GB has figured out how to draft and develop QBs much more efficiently than any other franchise. Mainly because they actually take the time to develop their QBs.

The whole "draft and get them on the field as fast as possible so they can get live reps" philosophy has largely been an abject failure league-wide, with literally hundreds of QBs since the early '80s being drafted then thrown to the wolves asap only to fail early and then be tossed aside before they've even fulfilled their 4th year in the league.

Meanwhile, GB has had just three starting QBs, two of whom are HoFers, over the last 20 years. And Jordan Love may well become yet another GB QB that succeeds over the long-term, for the next 10+ years. Maybe he won't, but it sure won't be because they didn't give him enough time to develop.

It's a good point. I suppose the issue is then how much it limits the rookie contract window. It feels like a year sitting is absolutely necessary with a lot of these high ceiling but lower floor QBs. More than that and you've really got to push those chips in quick. But gotta beat endlessly cycling in "nearly but not quite good enough" options like Cousins I guess.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

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After watching the NFL for over 40 years, it seems like GB has figured out how to draft and develop QBs much more efficiently than any other franchise. Mainly because they actually take the time to develop their QBs.

The whole "draft and get them on the field as fast as possible so they can get live reps" philosophy has largely been an abject failure league-wide, with literally hundreds of QBs since the early '80s being drafted then thrown to the wolves asap only to fail early and then be tossed aside before they've even fulfilled their 4th year in the league.

Meanwhile, GB has had just three starting QBs, two of whom are HoFers, over the last 20 years. And Jordan Love may well become yet another GB QB that succeeds over the long-term, for the next 10+ years. Maybe he won't, but it sure won't be because they didn't give him enough time to develop.

Brett favre was traded and started right away..while he sat that first year on another team..he was thrusted out there. Rodgers and Love,.yes.

But then you have the problem. They might play on a rookie contract one or two years. Your windows are tight on winning under the rookie contract window and surrounding them with talent.

I think the sitting and.veteran presence is.huge. but there are not many vets that want to be in that. Guess we will see how penix does for a year or 2. You need someone willing to tutor and lead by example.

Most rookies wouldn't listen to a Derek carr type QB.

[Gravedigger]

Tyreek is going to be cut from the Dolphins next year, he may make it to 2026 but they aren't giving him any more money.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Tyreek is going to be cut from the Dolphins next year, he may make it to 2026 but they aren't giving him any more money.

You are probably right. With is current demands. Even if they win a playoff game. If they pay and keep tua he is getting traded or released.

24. 31.4mil
25. 34.2mil
26. 56.3mil void year

So plays this year. They can trade him with a year left and a new team can extend him next year.

[O.city]

I'd imagine he either gets a new deal now.

Or yeah, he's cut

[chiefzilla1501]

The dolphins situation is an even better example. Do you think the dolphins really want to give tua a mega contract or are they just settling? I don’t understand why in his rookie contract the dolphins wouldn’t bring in some young gun who is high risk but can legitimately compete for the starting qb. Because if you get a halfway decent qb you can keep both tyreek and waddle. If tua is limited even with both those guys, is he a guy you want to pay to where you can only afford one of them?

[O.city]

If you think a guy just needs experience and time, you let him develop. It may not work out, but QB isn't like DE or WR. There's some mental stuff there too, you've gotta work around.

[gordonelloyd]

I don’t think you can continually draft QBs, churn them, and never pay top dollar if you find an exceptional one. I think there’s a lot of support on this board for adopting that approach for WR. And the Chiefs were clearly an early innovator here. And it is paid off.

But for a QB, I think once you find (if you find) an elite one you have to pay to keep him.

I think the Mahomes approach is ideal. you have a competent veteran and the rookie learns and sits for a year before being thrown to the wolves. Then you still get the benefits of the rookie contract for a 3or 4 year window, although extensions will likely mean less than that. And you guard against him being ruined by too early exposure.

However, the throw them to the wolves right away approach can work as Stroud showed last year. And it might have worked with Mahomes, although we will never know.

The so called Green Bay approach of keeping your elite quarterback while the successor sits for several years actually did not apply to Favre as his situation was more the Mahomes model. It certainly did work for Rogers and seems to be working for love. The key is having the confidence to trade your elite quarterback without waiting too long. That is probably where Seattle failed with Wilson, although they certainly still did get a good draft haul.

But of course, the key to any of these strategies is being able to identify and draft the QB that turns out to be elite. And I guess you have to keep trying until you think you have found one. And although low first round draft choices clearly give you your best shot, a number of what I would call successes have been taken later: Rogers and love late round 1, Hurst round 2, Wilson 3, Prescott 4, and of course, Brady round 6 and I will include Purdy round 7.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Tyreek is going to be cut from the Dolphins next year, he may make it to 2026 but they aren't giving him any more money.

IDK they are a sinking team now they may try to appease him for the short term. It's a team build like a 12 year old Madden franchise. I would not put anything past them.