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Old Today, 12:22 PM   #76
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Old Today, 12:43 PM   #77
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Old Today, 01:08 PM   #78
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Brock Purdy gets so much disrespect it's crazy. He had a 69.4% completion rate - 4300 yds - 31 TDs - 11 ints with only 444 pass attempts and took his team to the Super Bowl in his 2nd year in the league. He has a 4-1 record in the playoffs and his only loss was to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. He's thrown 6 TDs to only 1 int in the playoffs.

Last year he led the league in QBR, QB rating, TD%, yards per attempt, and yards per completion. He also doesn't have a very good OL, but only managed to get sacked 28 times.

Despite all of that people want to act like he's a game manager that is only successful because of the talent around him and his HC.

He's a top 5-10 QB in the league and I would most certainly put him above Herbert.
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Old Today, 01:14 PM   #79
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Brock Purdy gets so much disrespect it's crazy. He had a 69.4% completion rate - 4300 yds - 31 TDs - 11 ints with only 444 pass attempts and took his team to the Super Bowl in his 2nd year in the league. He has a 4-1 record in the playoffs and his only loss was to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. He's thrown 6 TDs to only 1 int in the playoffs.

Last year he led the league in QBR, QB rating, TD%, yards per attempt, and yards per completion. He also doesn't have a very good OL, but only managed to get sacked 28 times.

Despite all of that people want to act like he's a game manager that is only successful because of the talent around him and his HC.

He's a top 5-10 QB in the league and I would most certainly put him above Herbert.
Fun exercise - Which QBs in the following list would you rank ABOVE Brock Purdy?

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Burrow
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
C.J. Stroud
Jalen Hurts
Dak Prescott
Justin Herbert
Jordan Love
Matthew Stafford
Jared Goff
Kirk Cousins
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Old Today, 01:20 PM   #80
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Brock Purdy gets so much disrespect it's crazy. He had a 69.4% completion rate - 4300 yds - 31 TDs - 11 ints with only 444 pass attempts and took his team to the Super Bowl in his 2nd year in the league. He has a 4-1 record in the playoffs and his only loss was to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. He's thrown 6 TDs to only 1 int in the playoffs.

Last year he led the league in QBR, QB rating, TD%, yards per attempt, and yards per completion. He also doesn't have a very good OL, but only managed to get sacked 28 times.

Despite all of that people want to act like he's a game manager that is only successful because of the talent around him and his HC.

He's a top 5-10 QB in the league and I would most certainly put him above Herbert.
I think he's a high end game manager. Alex Smith without the early career yips. But you'll have to pay him like the top Qb's and when he doesn't have Deebo, CMC, Aiyuk and Kittle he's going to look a lot different. I think most would agree. The Chiefs navigated the cap and weapons perfectly until last year and had the only guy who can over come lack luster weapons.
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Old Today, 01:47 PM   #81
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Fun exercise - Which QBs in the following list would you rank ABOVE Brock Purdy?

Patrick Mahomes - Above
Joe Burrow - Burrow has just as good of weapons if not better, but I'd rather have Burrow if I was down at the end of a game. Above
Josh Allen - Above
Lamar Jackson - He's a 2 time MVP, but I think I'd rather have Purdy in a high leverage situation. Toss up
C.J. Stroud - Below
Jalen Hurts - toss up
Dak Prescott - toss up
Justin Herbert - Below
Jordan Love - Below
Matthew Stafford - Below
Jared Goff - Below
Kirk Cousins - Below
I have Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen for sure in front of him and a toss up between Hurts, Jackson, Prescott.

I have him anywhere from 4th to 7th best in the league.
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Old Today, 01:52 PM   #82
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I think he's a high end game manager. Alex Smith without the early career yips. But you'll have to pay him like the top Qb's and when he doesn't have Deebo, CMC, Aiyuk and Kittle he's going to look a lot different. I think most would agree. The Chiefs navigated the cap and weapons perfectly until last year and had the only guy who can over come lack luster weapons.
Purdy isn't a game manager. Alex Smith only had one season remotely close to Purdy's first full year as a starter. Smith isn't anywhere near Purdy. Purdy can win a SB and Smith never even got close.
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Old Today, 01:53 PM   #83
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They came within a **** hair of winning the SB with Purdy. He's good enough to win the SB if they're going to surround him with all world talent again. Question is, how long can they continue doing that?

Their front office has done a great job of acquiring and developing players. Outside of the Chiefs, they're the best franchise in the league over the last six seasons.
I agree, and CMC being surprisingly healthy has done a ton to help that. Remember how close they were to beating KC the first time before the 21 point explosion ended it for them. If the pay Purdy, they’re gonna struggle mightily trying to keep him surrounded with all world talent. Money can be moved around, but at some point the bills will need to be paid.
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Old Today, 01:55 PM   #84
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Fun exercise - Which QBs in the following list would you rank ABOVE Brock Purdy?

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Burrow
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
C.J. Stroud
Jalen Hurts
Dak Prescott
Justin Herbert
Jordan Love
Matthew Stafford
Jared Goff
Kirk Cousins
Above (this is also my ranking of NFL QBs)
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Stroud
Herbert
Love
Stafford
Jackson

Roughly the same
Hurts
Cousins
Goff
Prescott

Purdy is a product of the Shanahan system and the talent around him.
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Old Today, 02:14 PM   #85
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Above (this is also my ranking of NFL QBs)
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Stroud
Herbert
Love
Stafford
Jackson

Roughly the same
Hurts
Cousins
Goff
Prescott

Purdy is a product of the Shanahan system and the talent around him.
I'm about here. Would probably drop Love and Stafford into the "about the same" category just based on where Stafford is in his career. That would put 6 clearly ahead of Purdy, and another 6 that are about the same. I think that's a decent amount of respect. He isn't getting the Jimmy G treatment and rightfully so.
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Old Today, 02:16 PM   #86
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I'm about here. Would probably drop Love and Stafford into the "about the same" category just based on where Stafford is in his career. That would put 6 clearly ahead of Purdy, and another 6 that are about the same. I think that's a decent amount of respect. He isn't getting the Jimmy G treatment and rightfully so.
Stafford, even at this stage of his career, is still very clearly a more talented passer than Purdy. Dude still makes some insane throws.
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