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Old 03-04-2024, 09:14 PM   #2
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That's a good reason to do it in reverse. Spielman was a terrible NFL GM. I could do better from my couch, literally.



Even if what you said was true, irrelevant. Spielman way more connected with NFL scouts than the analytics guys on Twitter.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:18 PM   #3
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Even if what you said was true, irrelevant. Spielman way more connected with NFL scouts than the analytics guys on Twitter.
I was thinking of the guy that was GM for the Lions that took WRs like 3 1sts in a row... Wrong guy
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:20 PM   #4
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I was thinking of the guy that was GM for the Lions that took WRs like 3 1sts in a row... Wrong guy
I am not going to Google but my recollection was Spielman did well for a while then eventually had a few bad drafts and was gone.

But he was successful for many years.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:30 PM   #5
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I am not going to Google but my recollection was Spielman did well for a while then eventually had a few bad drafts and was gone.

But he was successful for many years.
Yeah, he played for Detroit but was GM for Minnesota. I had to Google the other guy... Matt Millen... now that guy is a ****ing doofus. Spielman did okay, I can respect his opinion.

I think a lot of positional variation gets thrown by the wayside though.

That's like saying any LT can play LT for a zone-passing team or a man-running team. Or that any ER can play 4-3 LDE, RDE, 3-4 OLB, or 3-4 5T. We just know that isn't how it works.

Andy Reid's offense is predicated on quickness and variability at the WR spot. You better be able to play at least 2 spots with regularity, especially when you get outside of the X. Even then, he moves guys a lot.

On top of all that, I'm just not impressed with Mitchell saying he ran a lot of routes at 80%. That's not a great thing to be telling future employers. It does confirm what you see on tape too, because he looks every bit of a 4.6 player on tape. The last thing I need to see out there is a guy half-assing it until he feels like it. And that, alone, disqualifies him as an Alpha.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:34 PM   #6
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Yeah, he played for Detroit but was GM for Minnesota. I had to Google the other guy... Matt Millen... now that guy is a ****ing doofus. Spielman did okay, I can respect his opinion.

I think a lot of positional variation gets thrown by the wayside though.

That's like saying any LT can play LT for a zone-passing team or a man-running team. Or that any ER can play 4-3 LDE, RDE, 3-4 OLB, or 3-4 5T. We just know that isn't how it works.

Andy Reid's offense is predicated on quickness and variability at the WR spot. You better be able to play at least 2 spots with regularity, especially when you get outside of the X. Even then, he moves guys a lot.

On top of all that, I'm just not impressed with Mitchell saying he ran a lot of routes at 80%. That's not a great thing to be telling future employers. It does confirm what you see on tape too, because he looks every bit of a 4.6 player on tape. The last thing I need to see out there is a guy half-assing it until he feels like it. And that, alone, disqualifies him as an Alpha.
I think you are just reading way too much into the guy.

If NFL teams agree with you he won't get drafted in the 1st.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:38 PM   #7
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I think you are just reading way too much into the guy.

If NFL teams agree with you he won't get drafted in the 1st.
I asked you to bet the under on 4.59 going off what I saw on tape. I said Worthy would run at least a 4.29. I don't think that's "reading" into anything. I said immediately after he ran 4.34 that I had more questions than I had before and then he outright confirmed he was half-assing it a lot so he could last the entire game. So now you want him to go into an Andy Reid offense that runs these guys all over the place. That scares me a little.
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