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Old 02-24-2024, 10:23 AM   #2
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Tyron is really good he’s just hurt a lot and he’s old
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Old 02-24-2024, 11:54 AM   #3
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Tyron is really good he’s just hurt a lot and he’s old
So... we only need him to play 1 partial year, Morris has proved he can fill in.

Get Tyron healthy for playoffs and SB run.

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Old 02-24-2024, 11:59 AM   #4
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Ogbah is cut by the dolphins. Bring him in for the right price to bridge the gap while we wait for CO?
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Old 02-24-2024, 12:47 PM   #5
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Ogbah is cut by the dolphins. Bring him in for the right price to bridge the gap while we wait for CO?
This occurred to me too, you need 1 veteran DE to probably be the starter/rotate heavily with FAU, that cannot be Herring I don't think.

I don't know what his price would be though, compared to say Danna who we think the Chiefs probably can't afford to bring back
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Old 02-25-2024, 12:41 AM   #6
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I like Mooney if he comes cheap. But anything around the MVS money is theft. His highlights remain elite but he’s been bad on a bad team. He’s WR 3 for them now and that says most of what you need to know regardless of who’s playing QB for them.

On a cheap prove it deal then sure absolute. A multi year decent contract should be a hard pass.

In regards to WR I think we sleep off the first days of FA and wait to see who’s bluffing and then maybe see who might get released in a cap dump. A Lockett or Mike Williams for example.
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Old 02-25-2024, 11:00 AM   #7
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I like Mooney if he comes cheap. But anything around the MVS money is theft. His highlights remain elite but he’s been bad on a bad team. He’s WR 3 for them now and that says most of what you need to know regardless of who’s playing QB for them.

On a cheap prove it deal then sure absolute. A multi year decent contract should be a hard pass.

In regards to WR I think we sleep off the first days of FA and wait to see who’s bluffing and then maybe see who might get released in a cap dump. A Lockett or Mike Williams for example.
I prefer DJ Chark over Mooney, as a low cost option, personally.

He's slightly more seasoned, a better replacement size-wise for MVS at 6-3 200 lbs w/ 4.34 speed, and played for $3m last season.

He also outperformed both MVS, Mooney, and Hardman last season.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

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Old 02-25-2024, 11:37 AM   #8
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I prefer DJ Chark over Mooney, as a low cost option, personally.

He's slightly more seasoned, a better replacement size-wise for MVS at 6-3 200 lbs w/ 4.34 speed, and played for $3m last season.

He also outperformed both MVS, Mooney, and Hardman last season.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

I was big on chark a few years ago. I think the talent was there but he misses time often and hasnt really been a wr2 level receiver for a few years. On a carolina team devoid of wr talent he did almost nothing last year while actually playing in almost all the games.

His salary was 5m last year. I would take him for that or less with the understanding that he is essentially another MVS flyer.

If mooney would take the same 5m, i would rather have him. If you watch Chicago at all you see this dude flying open constantly. And he has missed minimal time too.


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Old 02-25-2024, 02:12 PM   #9
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I was big on chark a few years ago. I think the talent was there but he misses time often and hasnt really been a wr2 level receiver for a few years. On a carolina team devoid of wr talent he did almost nothing last year while actually playing in almost all the games.

His salary was 5m last year. I would take him for that or less with the understanding that he is essentially another MVS flyer.

If mooney would take the same 5m, i would rather have him. If you watch Chicago at all you see this dude flying open constantly. And he has missed minimal time too.


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His prev contract was 1yr $5m, last year he played on a 1yr $3m deal. Still out produced both MVS and Mooney, I'm not expecting him to be a #2, more like #3 or #4.
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Old 02-25-2024, 03:14 PM   #10
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I prefer DJ Chark over Mooney, as a low cost option, personally.

He's slightly more seasoned, a better replacement size-wise for MVS at 6-3 200 lbs w/ 4.34 speed, and played for $3m last season.

He also outperformed both MVS, Mooney, and Hardman last season.

Seems like a no brainer to me.
Chark is way too meh for me.


Just a vertical guy that runs downs the field.

Mooney is a way better player and will get more $$$$ in FA.
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Old 02-25-2024, 07:47 PM   #11
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Chark is way too meh for me.


Just a vertical guy that runs downs the field.

Mooney is a way better player and will get more $$$$ in FA.
I thought I read somewhere that DJ Chark was in the top 10 of wide receivers this last year for lack of separation. How does a vertical guy lead the league in not being able to get separation if he's a deep ball guy? He was pretty good a couple of years ago, but has dropped off in a big way recently.
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Old 02-25-2024, 11:26 AM   #12
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I'm curious though, do you think the Chiefs explore a restructure with MVS?

He caught some nice balls in the post-season.
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Old 02-25-2024, 11:39 AM   #13
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I'm curious though, do you think the Chiefs explore a restructure with MVS?

He caught some nice balls in the post-season.

The only reason i think this is a possibility is because he is the only real vet that can help young wrs learn the offense, but i suppose Watson could do that too.

I dont think a “restructure” is right. I think it would have to be a straight up pay cut.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:34 PM   #14
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Old 02-28-2024, 07:53 AM   #15
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The Chiefs now must quickly turn their attention to bolstering the roster for another deep run in the 2024-25 season. In addition to major names like Chris Jones and L'Jarius Sneed, there are over 20 free agents for the organization that Brett Veach must make decisions on.

With around only $23 million in projected cap space as it stands, it's likely some contracts will be restructured to free up some money, but Veach's task will not be easy.

As we enter the offseason, here's a quick guide for what Chiefs are free agents and which category they fall into, sorted by their average annual value thus far in their careers. Thus, the lower a player is on the list, the less money they've made so far on average.
Chiefs Unrestricted Free Agents:

DT Chris Jones
WR Mecole Hardman
S Mike Edwards
LB Drue Tranquill
LT Donovan Smith
RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
P Tommy Townsend
G Nick Allegretti
DE Tershawn Wharton
LS James Winchester
LB Willie Gay Jr.
QB Blaine Gabbert
RB Jerick McKinnon
DT Derrick Nnadi
WR Richie James
TE Blake Bell
S Deon Bush
CB L'Jarius Sneed
DE Mike Danna

That's a lot of names and a lot of important contributors with not a lot of cap space to work with.

Unrestricted free agents are ones who have accrued at least four seasons of NFL service time and are free to negotiate and sign with any team in the league. It's notable that Sneed and Danna are so low on the list, because they've both made under $1 million in average annual value so far in their careers.

Sneed was perhaps the best cornerback in football while Danna compiled 6.5 sacks in an impressive campaign. It's understandable that both would be seeking their first big payday in the NFL, which makes it difficult to convince either to take a hometown discount.
Chiefs Restricted Free Agent:

T Prince Tega Wanogho
TE Jody Fortson
DE Malik Herring

Restricted free agents are players whose contracts have expired but they've only accrued three seasons of service time.

These players can also sign with any team, though the Chiefs can offer a qualifying tender that could result in draft compensation and/or the right of first refusal. Fortson is a fan-favorite who landed on the Injured Reserve list this year, while Herring and Tega Wanogho could be kept as depth pieces.
Chiefs Exclusive Restricted Free Agent:

LB Jack Cochrane
CB Nazeeh Johnson
G Mike Caliendo

An exclusive restricted free agent is a player who has less than three years of accrued service and is no longer under contract.

If the Chiefs choose to tender any of these players, the player will be assigned a one-year contract at the league minimum based on the number of seasons he has completed.
These players are not allowed to negotiate with other teams until Kansas City makes its decision on tenders.

Put everything together and the Chiefs have 25 total free agents, though three of those fall under the exclusive tag. It should be an interesting offseason as Veach and his front office staff make decisions and negotiate with these players.

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