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04-04-2023, 07:39 PM | #106 |
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Since the talk is on pitching, look what happened tonight in Miami
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04-04-2023, 07:40 PM | #107 |
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04-04-2023, 07:49 PM | #108 |
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04-04-2023, 08:12 PM | #109 | |
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Passive-Agressive post. Well played sir, well played. |
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04-04-2023, 08:28 PM | #110 |
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04-04-2023, 09:12 PM | #111 |
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I thought O’Neill was dogging it but they didn’t show the replay of him running the bases, only the play at the plate. I guess Ollie called out O’Neill for his lack of effort on that play in his presser.
Why would he not be hustling? Worried about pulling a hamstring? If you can’t do that play, you need to change your body or go be a weightlifter. |
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04-04-2023, 09:42 PM | #112 |
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I like the pace the pitch clock has put in but if you are going to put this shit in place and the allow the batters to have 1 TO and they call it before a violation has taken place then you better ****ing give them the TO. I dont really care about Machado but he is one of the premier players in the game and throwing him out because your dumbass doesn't know where the 8 second mark is on a countdown (hint: its not when the clock goes from 9 to 8) is just reeruned. I hate umps that get this ego trip and seemingly want to make the game about themselves, but yet MLB seems to think the speed of the bat boys needs to be addressed. |
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04-05-2023, 08:55 AM | #113 | |
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It makes sense that he may have a little doubt in his head regarding when you can push those hamstrings again. Much easier to do it in the outfield than running the bases. |
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04-05-2023, 09:02 AM | #114 | |
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It's a completely reasonable explanation. And it's evidently one he actually GAVE to Marmol after the game during a meeting with him. O'Neill believed the matter to be closed. Maybe O'Neill's thought process was flawed (maybe it wasn't) but he certainly put thought into it and it wasn't something that deserved a flogging for jaking his baserunning. And Marmol STILL went out there and publicly blasted him for lack of hustle DESPITE O'Neill giving him his explanation behind closed doors. Effectively calling O'Neill both a dog and a liar. And O'Neill doesn't find this out from Marmol - he hears it from Jim ****ing Hayes. **** Ollie Marmol, man. That guy is so overmatched. He's way out over his skiis here and this kindof pouty red-assed bullshit is just another example of it. He's a god-awful manager. Fortunately for him this organization doesn't hold anyone accountable for anything so as long as he's a good (read: quiet) solider, he'll get to keep cashin' those checks. This organization is rotten from the top down. |
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04-05-2023, 10:12 AM | #115 |
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Just saw the O’Neill video on Twitter. For me, that was a brutal send by the 3B coach. O’Neill looked like a player surprised to have been sent in that situation.
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04-05-2023, 10:17 AM | #116 | |
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Because if you get a late stop sign and you haven't slowed to round then you try to throw the brakes on, you're gonna bust your ass and make the 3rd out at 3b trying to get back. It's just such bullshit from Marmol. O'Neill was wholly reasonable and gets publicly eviscerated then benched today. Marmol is completely out of his depth. |
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04-05-2023, 10:18 AM | #117 | |
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04-05-2023, 10:21 AM | #118 |
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Warner shouldn't have sent O'Neil at all. I also don't think O'Neil was half-assing running (he was trying to tighten up his route).
Why the **** would you send an OF who had hamstring issues last year on a ball that perfectly bounced to shallow right field with a clear path to be thrown out at home? He did the same shit with Bader (granted, it was more appropriate and deserved) last season. |
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04-05-2023, 10:36 AM | #119 | |
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04-05-2023, 10:40 AM | #120 | |
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LaRussa was actually great at that, but even he had his missteps. He could go out there and pull that stuff with Edmonds and it fired Edmonds up to go out there and kick ass. Edmonds never took it personally and LaRussa absolutely transformed his career. He tried it once with Rolen and it backfired spectacularly. He never did it with Molina or Pujols and some folks would say because he had favorites - I think it was because he know how prideful those guys are and that it would simply go very poorly for him. He'd have never done it with Carpenter even if warrented; he might have with Wainwright, though. I never saw it as playing favorites as much as I think it is a simple case of utilizing different approaches for different people. Your feel for the individual players on the team has to be virtually spotless and frankly you have to have a TON more cache than an organizational puppet like Marmol will ever have. Regarding his feel for the players, O'Neill's reaction made it quite clear that Marmol didn't read the room correctly there. It was just monumentally ****ing dumb. |
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