She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Or, people could point out that the early success has been impacting views by keeping the numbers high due to nostalgia, even though the product is deteriorating, just as we saw happen with Star Wars.

But is that because they are pushing non white male characters or because the movies aren't as good quality.

I don't think the problem with star was was rey of any of the characters. The problem was they announced a trilogy and had no ****ing idea what they were going to do.

They gave each director control to do what they wanted making the overarching story make 0 sense. They were constantly adding and then retconning stuff.

Captain marvel is a prime example of a character that isn't created to connect with me specifically (a 37 year old white male) but it made over 1B dollars. So it connected with someone.

And before you say it only made that money because of the hype between IW and endgame antman 2 was released in the same period and only made half..

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

But is that because they are pushing non white male characters or because the movies aren't as good quality.

I don't think the problem with star was was rey of any of the characters. The problem was they announced a trilogy and had no ****ing idea what they were going to do.

They gave each director control to do what they wanted making the overarching story make 0 sense. They were constantly adding and then retconning stuff.

Captain marvel is a prime example of a character that isn't created to connect with me specifically (a 37 year old white male) but it made over 1B dollars. So it connected with someone.

And before you say it only made that money because of the hype between IW and endgame antman 2 was released in the same period and only made half..

And you can't compare the movies to the Disney+ shows. They don't have the budget and it's a small niche depending on what character they're showcasing.

Will I watch She Hulk? Nope. Is it because the female character is buff and isn't relatable to me? No. It's because the CGI looks basic as **** and the character was never interesting to me.

I also never watched the Scarlet Witch/Vision or Falcon and the Winter Soldier shows. I may down the road but they weren't must see TV when they first came out. Loki was though.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

But is that because they are pushing non white male characters or because the movies aren't as good quality.

The first is part of the second.

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

I don't think the problem with star was was rey of any of the characters. The problem was they announced a trilogy and had no ****ing idea what they were going to do.

The characters were a problem. The storylines were a problem. The political angles were a problem. Pretty much everything was a problem.

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Captain marvel is a prime example of a character that isn't created to connect with me specifically (a 37 year old white male) but it made over 1B dollars. So it connected with someone.

And before you say it only made that money because of the hype between IW and endgame antman 2 was released in the same period and only made half..

You're now arguing that a movie doesn't suck because it made money. The list of movies that proves that argument to be silly is very long. But you're in good company with that (terrible) argument, as it gets used a lot in this forum, in one form or another.