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04-20-2022, 06:31 PM | |
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Most Realistic Chiefs' Mock
Give me your absolute best guess at what you think the Chiefs will do with their 12 draft picks. I'm looking for what you feel Veach will do... trades, players, etc.
I'm not looking for who you want the Chiefs to draft. I've seen every iteration of that. A short one-liner of why you think each pick makes a lot of sense would be sensational. If you do trades, please at least reference this Trade Value Chart |
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04-20-2022, 09:17 PM | #2 |
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Fun exercise.
29. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas. Slim pickings at edge in this run, at least for this draft slot. Burks gives KC another super-sized WR, and one who can be a real weapon after the catch. 30 -----> to Detroit (30, 135 for 34, 97, which is 1 point off in value on the Hill chart) 34. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor. Still not loving the EDGE values (Mafe was off the board at 22 in this run), I move on to a different player who fits in perfectly with the Chiefs' defense. Pitre will be the nickel corner and gives KC safety flexibility in 23+ should KC not retain Juan Thornhill. 50 -----> to Seattle (50, 121, 243 for 41. This is -4 for Seattle on the Hill but close enough to roll with) 41. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State. Finally make an EDGE move and get a good athlete with the potential to grow into a more complete player. I do like his twitchy athleticism, and his arm length makes up for being a little shorter than a typical Chiefs DE). 62. Kingsley Enagbare, DE, South Carolina. Enagbare is not an overwhelming athlete, but he wins contests and is versatile. He gives me a strongside pairing for Ebiketie long-term. 94. Jalen Tolbert, WR, South Alabama. Tolbert is a smooth receiver who gives you a little bit of everything, and I can't avoid the double-dip to keep rebuilding the room. 97. Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati. With Pitre in the fold, this might seem like an unnecessary move, but Cook gives KC a physical, true SS sort and someone who is a major upgrade as the subpackage dime safety. 103. Matt Waletzko, T, North Dakota. Looking around for a developmental T, Waletzko pops out over more mentioned prospects like Rasheed Walker and Zach Tom because of his length (36" arms). Potential long-term RT answer. I take him and groan inwardly at passing on Jeremy Ruckert, TE, and some great CB options (McCollum, Armour-Davis, Bryant). 7.233 ----> (233, 243 for 210. Neutral on TV chart) 210. Sam Webb, CB, Missouri Western. Come on, now. You didn't think Veach was just going to hang out the whole rest of this, did you? He comes back up to grab a really athletic developmental CB prospect. And that's it. KC reinforces the WR and DE spots with guys who can contribute right away and adds some legit star potential to that room. Pitre gives them the flexibility needed at DB to continue shopping in the bargain bin for CBs and trying to develop its way forward. With the way the board fell, it didn't make sense to move up for a DE in the first, and I don't believe KC will do that for a WR, ultimately. |
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04-20-2022, 10:01 PM | #3 |
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I made this list without seeing what Duncan had posted -
No trades Draft: (1-29) WR Treylon Burks, Arkansas Draft: (1-30) S Daxton Hill, Michigan Draft: (2-50) DE Cameron Thomas, San Diego State (Boye Mafe if still available at 50) Draft: (2-62) CB/PR Marcus Jones, Houston (Use on slot) Draft: (3-94) OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State Draft: (3c -103) TE Jelani Woods Draft: (4-121) RB Rachaad White, Arizona State Draft: (4-135) LB Malcom Rodriguez, Oklahoma State Draft: (7-233) OL Austin Deculus, LSU Practice Squad Draft: (7-243) DT Noah Elliss, Idaho Practice Squad Draft: (7-251) CB Sam Webb, Missouri Western State, Practice Squad Draft: (7-259) DE Adam Anderson, Georgia, Await Legal |
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04-20-2022, 10:10 PM | #4 |
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No extra WR, but TE Jelani Woods and RB Rachaad White could really contribute to our receiving group.
CB Marcus Jones not very big but he can match up with speedy quick receivers. |
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04-21-2022, 03:43 AM | #5 |
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I have no idea, but I'd bet against the grain. Everyone is so locked in on WR and DE. I'll say they jump up a handful of slots and draft a DT, and go DB early as well.
So I guess I'll say Wyatt. IDK the DB. Hill is long gone IMO. |
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04-21-2022, 06:13 AM | #6 |
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One thing to think about-
Andy's offense is notoriously difficult for rookies. Now, are we going to do some things differently this season since we have only Mecole as a system vet? Maybe. But I would think it's possible that we'd only draft one WR high expecting some immediate production in any given year. I'd love to double dip, myself, but I don't know. Probably both wouldn't play much unless one had a lot of KR/PR potential. |
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04-21-2022, 06:34 AM | #7 | |
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Wyatt is likely off a lot of boards because he has 4 separate domestic violence incidents from college. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him slide late into day 2. |
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04-21-2022, 09:07 AM | #8 | |
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I won't be surprised if we are all wrong on our mocks, but there will be an exciting, big infusion of talent next week. |
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04-21-2022, 09:12 AM | #9 |
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round one: Burks, Mafe
round two: Pierce, Thomas |
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04-21-2022, 09:15 AM | #10 | |
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I've learned to give a little more grace and not assume when it comes to that, so I would trust the team if they draft him... but I'd be waiting for the other shoe to drop as long as he was a Chief. |
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04-21-2022, 09:27 AM | #11 | |
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04-21-2022, 01:06 PM | #12 |
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Alright. The chiefs have 38 roster locks and 8 bubble players by my estimate.
QB: Mahomes, Buechle, Henne (0 need) RB: Helaire, Jones, Williams, Gore, Burton (0 need) WR: Scantling, Smith-Schuster, Hardman, (bubble: Gordon, Dieter, Fountain) (need 2-3, only MVS is on contract next year) TE: Kelce, Gray, Fortson, Bell (0 need) OT: Brown, Wylie, Niang, (bubble: Wanogho) (need 1) IOL: Humphrey, Smith, Thuney, Router, Allegretti (0 need) DE: Clark, Danna (bubble: Kaindoh) (need 2-3, Clark gone after this year.) DT: Jones, Nnadi, Saunders, Wharton (need 1) LB: Bolton, Gay (bubble: Harris) (need 2-3) CB: Sneed, Fenton (bubble: Baker, Barcoo) (need 2-3) S: Reid, Thornhill (bubble: Bush) (need 1-2) ST: Butker, Townsend, Winchester Overall this means that the Chiefs need to add 11-16 players to compete for roster spots between the draft and PFAs. To compete for starting positions, the chiefs need 1 DE, 1 WR, 1 LB, 1 DT, and 1 CB. 1 S is also critically important. To meet these needs, the chiefs should, in my opinion, emphasize acquiring early second round picks. In my scenario: The chiefs trade 29 to SEA for 40, 72 The chiefs trade 30, 62, and 2023R3 to NYJ for 35, 38 35: Arnold Ebiketie 38: Travis Jones 40: Logan Hall 50: George Pickens 72: Tariq Woolen 94: Bryan Cook 103: Zyon McCollum 121: Braxton Jones 135: Brandon Smith 233: Damone Clark 243: Jeremiah Gemmell 251: Markquese Bell 259: Isaiah Weston I will update with reasoning later tonight, but I look forward to your critiques. Last edited by Nightfyre; 04-21-2022 at 01:27 PM.. |
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04-21-2022, 01:12 PM | #14 |
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I don't think we get a WR in the first unless we trade up.
Take a DE and DB and then get Christian Watson in the 2nd. |
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04-21-2022, 01:24 PM | #15 | |
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Also I apparently left out pick 94. I will add it, selecting Bryan Cook. Thank you for the good catch. |
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