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Old 07-22-2021, 02:55 PM   #2
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Say DeAndre contracts COVID and ends up costing the team a conservative estimate of $50 million as a result of a cancelled game. Who should be responsible for all of that lost revenue? Do all of his teammates and everyone else involved just take the loss?

(And, yes, I know vaccines aren't 100%, but not getting one increases your risk by a factor of 10x to 20x.)
Vaccinated team mate gives it Dhop, how do you determine whose fault it is?
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:23 PM   #3
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Say DeAndre contracts COVID and ends up costing the team a conservative estimate of $50 million as a result of a cancelled game. Who should be responsible for all of that lost revenue? Do all of his teammates and everyone else involved just take the loss?

(And, yes, I know vaccines aren't 100%, but not getting one increases your risk by a factor of 10x to 20x.)
I understand the ramifications of what might happen. I'm more curious about the angle of employees not just being told to take it or else, but that his fellow employees being punished for something they had no part of.
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:45 PM   #4
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I understand the ramifications of what might happen. I'm more curious about the angle of employees not just being told to take it or else, but that his fellow employees being punished for something they had no part of.
What about the angle of the employer that is not allowed to do anything to prevent an outbreak that could cause them to lose millions? What if this was a manufacturing line? So what, the plant has to just deal with a massive supply disruption on account of this? There are plenty of professions, sports being a huge one, where you can't have irreplaceable players miss a few weeks.
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:48 PM   #5
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What about the angle of the employer that is not allowed to do anything to prevent an outbreak that could cause them to lose millions? What if this was a manufacturing line? So what, the plant has to just deal with a massive supply disruption on account of this? There are plenty of professions, sports being a huge one, where you can't have irreplaceable players miss a few weeks.
Again the vaccine has a 1% chance of stopping you from getting COVID. That is called ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction). So you can be vaccinated and still give the virus to others.
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:52 PM   #6
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Again the vaccine has a 1% chance of stopping you from getting COVID. That is called ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction). So you can be vaccinated and still give the virus to others.
That is why the NFL wants teams to hit the threshold so they don't have to enforce these rules around vaccinated cases. If too many players are unvaccinated, do you realize how exposed these owners are to one legit outbreak? Can you blame them for wanting this? Would you blame a plant manager who is nervous as shit about an outbreak hitting his workers?
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:50 PM   #7
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What about the angle of the employer that is not allowed to do anything to prevent an outbreak that could cause them to lose millions? What if this was a manufacturing line? So what, the plant has to just deal with a massive supply disruption on account of this? There are plenty of professions, sports being a huge one, where you can't have irreplaceable players miss a few weeks.
And what happens when the Cardinals forfeit a game and their checks, then Hopkins tests negative for Covid? From everything we're being told, the vaccinated can come down with the variants, right? What if it was Kyler Murray that picked it up from a friend of his mom's housekeeper that wasn't vaccinated? What then?
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:54 PM   #8
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And what happens when the Cardinals forfeit a game and their checks, then Hopkins tests negative for Covid? From everything we're being told, the vaccinated can come down with the variants, right? What if it was Kyler Murray that picked it up from a friend of his mom's housekeeper that wasn't vaccinated? What then?
I don't get punishing the opposing team. I imagine this policy is meant to pressure teams to hit the 85% number. From there, it's the Jon Rahm scenario. We gave you the chance to make this go away and because you chose not to, we now can take strict measures.
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