I am not a fan of Veach's "tier" approach.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you want a DE, I think you need to look for one to actually replace Clark in the near future. So you need a real war daddy on that side that can bend. Those usually don't go in the late 2nd.

So next years #1 is likely gonna be that.

Either DE or WR because their WR corp is just not very strong, especially considering the Chiefs have the best QB in the NFL.

Veach really needs to hit on at least two wide receivers that can be productive immediately in next year's draft because they won't be able to afford to pay another guy $16 million plus over the next several years because Hill is going to get at least $20.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Either DE or WR because their WR corp is just not very strong, especially considering the Chiefs have the best QB in the NFL.

Veach really needs to hit on at least two wide receivers that can be productive immediately in next year's draft because they won't be able to afford to pay another guy $16 million plus over the next several years because Hill is going to get at least $20.

Yep

Although atleast with wr you have andy who’s been able to develop mid rounders. I think you’ve gotta invest in one at some point but that’s also where Hardman needs to get his shit together

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Although atleast with wr you have andy who’s been able to develop mid rounders.

Maybe, but that hasn't happened much, if at all, during his time in KC.

Demarcus Robinson is the very definition of a JAG. While the Chiefs have given every opportunity to guys like Kemp, Fortson and Pringle, they've done absolutely nothing of note on the field.

Chris Conley was a decent selection but the Chiefs actually traded up for Conley, who did not live up to expectations, mainly due to injury. By the time he was a solid contributor in Year 4, the Chiefs let him walk.

It's really beyond time to address the WR corp, especially since the Chiefs can no longer afford to pay two impact WR's $16 to $20 million each.

It would be nice if Powell exceeds the expectations normally assigned to fifth round picks, the odds are against him even becoming a Demarcus Robinson, let alone, a Sammy Watkins.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe, but that hasn't happened much, if at all, during his time in KC.

Demarcus Robinson is the very definition of a JAG. While the Chiefs have given every opportunity to guys like Kemp, Fortson and Pringle, they've done absolutely nothing of note on the field.

Chris Conley was a decent selection but the Chiefs actually traded up for Conley, who did not live up to expectations, mainly due to injury. By the time he was a solid contributor in Year 4, the Chiefs let him walk.

It's really beyond time to address the WR corp, especially since the Chiefs can no longer afford to pay two impact WR's $16 to $20 million each.

It would be nice if Powell exceeds the expectations normally assigned to fifth round picks, the odds are against him even becoming a Demarcus Robinson, let alone, a Sammy Watkins.

Tyreek was a 5th round running back who’s been developed. Kelce a third rounder etc.

Odds aren’t great for this guys but he’s got production out of guys like Albert wilson and Conley so as long as they have Hill they will probably have to go with young guys or cheap vets at #2 wr

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Tyreek was a 5th round running back who’s been developed. Kelce a third rounder etc.

Oh, come on. That's disingenuous. Had Hill not plead guilty to choking his girlfriend at the time, the guy would have absolutely destroyed at the Combine and would have gone much, much higher in the draft. He'd have gone in the top of the 2nd round without a doubt and considering his speed, he may have been a 1st rounder.

Had Kelce not been a megadipshit in college who missed an entire season due to his dumbassery, he'd have gone much, much higher as well.

If you're going to bring up examples of True mid rounders, the only two receivers of note are Chris Conley and Demarcus Robinson, two guys that probably lived up to their draft status but nothing more.

Originally Posted by O.city

Odds aren’t great for this guys but he’s got production out of guys like Albert wilson and Conley so as long as they have Hill they will probably have to go with young guys or cheap vets at #2 wr

Well unfortunately, by the time those guys were playing at a high enough level, the Chiefs allowed both to walk. I didn't really care much for Alligator Arms Wilson but I thought it was a mistake to allow Conley to walk on the cheap.

There must have been something personality-wise that didn't fit in the Chiefs lockerroom because he's a far better #3 or #4 than anyone else who's been given those roster spots and the $2.3 million he earned each season in Jacksonville certainly wasn't a back-breaker in terms of the cap.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Either DE or WR because their WR corp is just not very strong, especially considering the Chiefs have the best QB in the NFL.

Veach really needs to hit on at least two wide receivers that can be productive immediately in next year's draft because they won't be able to afford to pay another guy $16 million plus over the next several years because Hill is going to get at least $20.

Agree. I do think however that Noah Gray is going to be a really nice option as a receiver. Not expecting him to blow up but I can definitely see him making plays as that 3rd receiving option on 3rd down