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11-16-2020, 10:44 AM | #121 | |
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You rarely see Mahomes getting bailed out by his receivers in that manner. Usually Patrick is throwing to open guys or making unbelievable throws that only his guys can catch. Sometimes his guys are open as a direct result of Patrick using his eyes to manipulate defenders and physical ability to throw no-look passes that other QB's cannot attempt. |
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11-16-2020, 11:42 AM | #122 |
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11-16-2020, 12:06 PM | #123 |
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11-16-2020, 12:21 PM | #124 | |
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Deshaun is obviously a better athlete, certainly much faster and elusive than Alex. And he's more willing to go downfield. And Alex made it to the AFCCG once, and should've won that game, if not for his overly cautious nature preventing him from taking shots downfield when he really needed to do so. And the same could be said of some of the Chiefs other playoff games with Alex at the helm. The other way to look at it would be "if Deshaun had been the Chiefs QB in some of those playoff games and not Alex, would the Chiefs have had a better chance to win some of them?" and I think the answer is probably yes. |
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11-16-2020, 12:25 PM | #125 | |
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He’s not in the same conversation as Alex at all. He’s significantly better. |
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11-16-2020, 12:37 PM | #126 | |
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Watson is a borderline top 12 QB. Nothing more. Last year, he was about 7th by all the metrics. In 2018, he was around 11 or 12th. This year, he's between 13th and 15th. Watson is the 2nd-highest paid QB in the league. His cap hits in years 3 and 4 are actually HIGHER than Mahomes'. He isn't even CLOSE to being worth that. So as I said before, Houston is stuck with him. |
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11-16-2020, 12:42 PM | #127 | |
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11-16-2020, 12:56 PM | #128 | |
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Aaron Rodgers overcame Mike McCarthy. Russell Wilson has overcome Pete Carroll. You could list lots of QB's that have won in spite of their coaches. QB's drive the NFL. Watson is not good enough to consistently do that. |
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11-16-2020, 01:00 PM | #129 |
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Kyler Murray and Josh Allen have now surpassed Watson.
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11-16-2020, 01:16 PM | #130 | |
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Andy Reid is pretty amazing at getting very good QB play even from 7/11 clerk type of guys. You give him Deshaun Watson and he would get pretty damn good results. Probably better than Alex Smith. |
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11-16-2020, 01:23 PM | #131 | |
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When you watch Watson play, especially his body language when things aren't going his way, you don't see a guy that rises to the occasion. You see a guy that basically shrugs his shoulders or pouts. Being a true top QB in this league requires more than physical talent. It requires football IQ, desire, and the ability to rise above. I don't see those things in Watson really at all. |
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11-16-2020, 01:27 PM | #132 | |
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That's one of the most amazing things about Mahomes. He's never been blown out in the NFL, so you can't accuse him of padding stats in garbage time. His team has never been down big enough to call any of their 4th quarter trailing situations "garbage time" against the prevent defense that is trying to burn clock. |
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11-16-2020, 01:38 PM | #133 | |
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Mahomes would have at least 5-10 more TDs a season if they padded stats with the lead like the Ravens consistently do or Brady yesterday throwing a garbage time TD to Gronk of all people. Don’t think those two need the reps. |
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11-16-2020, 02:22 PM | #134 | |
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Technically any team that has a QB that isn’t Wilson, Mahomes or Rodgers is stuck bc they likely won’t beat them unless they have much better team and coaching. |
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11-16-2020, 02:24 PM | #135 | |
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I don't get what people see in the guy, honestly, other than the athletic ability. |
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