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Old 10-30-2020, 12:52 PM   #2
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If you're setting the bar at "He's not Patrick Mahomes", that's a pretty damn unrealistic standard.
I'm not sure he's even Dak Prescott or Derek Carr.

I'm just not that high on Watson. He's physically gifted but has some fairly significant mental issues, IMO. I'm not sure he's ever going to be a top 1/3 QB.
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Old 10-30-2020, 01:01 PM   #3
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I'm not sure he's even Dak Prescott or Derek Carr.
Oh C'mon. You wanna argue Dak i'll hear you because he's criminally under rated. Carr was the laughing stock of the AFCW until Gruden got him a shiny new Ruggs, a top 5 RB and a top OL.

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I'm just not that high on Watson. He's physically gifted but has some fairly significant mental issues, IMO. I'm not sure he's ever going to be a top 1/3 QB.
Get him some coaching who will mold the offense to his skill set, like Jackson, Murray, Mahomes etc. He doesn't have significant mental issues, he just needs a damn scheme to help him out while he grows.

Will he be top 1-3? Probably not ever as long as Mahomes and Wilson are around.

But top 10? For sure. You can build and sustain a good offense around this guy for years to come.
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Old 10-30-2020, 01:08 PM   #4
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Get him some coaching who will mold the offense to his skill set, like Jackson, Murray, Mahomes etc. He doesn't have significant mental issues, he just needs a damn scheme to help him out while he grows.

Will he be top 1-3? Probably not ever as long as Mahomes and Wilson are around.

But top 10? For sure. You can build and sustain a good offense around this guy for years to come.
What Watson needs is a WR that can go up and bring down jump balls. He's just not ever going to be a precision QB.
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Old 10-30-2020, 01:11 PM   #5
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What Watson needs is a WR that can go up and bring down jump balls. He's just not ever going to be a precision QB.
We may never know.

But i think he just needs an OC that can give him some schematic advantages. Bieniemy just might be that guy, idk.
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If you're setting the bar at "He's not Patrick Mahomes", that's a pretty damn unrealistic standard.
Not when their contracts are essentially the same thing for the same time period. Both being paid around $39M per year in the 4-year period of Deshaun's deal.
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Not when their contracts are essentially the same thing for the same time period. Both being paid around $39M per year in the 4-year period of Deshaun's deal.
That's the nature of NFL contracts though. NFL contracts have never been about paying players based on their positional rank, ESPECIALLY with QB's.

It's always been "Next man up, next biggest contract", particularly with QB's.

There's going to be plenty of QB's making more than Mahomes as time goes on. Lets not forget that Mahomes was ridiculed for his "team friendly deal", mostly because of the contract length allegedly not allowing him to renegotiate a better deal a few years from now.

The complaint from national media pundits has been, "Oh so-and-so will make more money therefore Mahomes was stupid to make that deal".
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That's the nature of NFL contracts though. NFL contracts have never been about paying players based on their positional rank, ESPECIALLY with QB's.

It's always been "Next man up, next biggest contract", particularly with QB's.

There's going to be plenty of QB's making more than Mahomes as time goes on. Lets not forget that Mahomes was ridiculed for his "team friendly deal", mostly because of the contract length allegedly not allowing him to renegotiate a better deal a few years from now.

The complaint from national media pundits has been, "Oh so-and-so will make more money therefore Mahomes was stupid to make that deal".
I'm aware of all that. Still not unfair to hold Deshaun to a very high standard when he got paid top dollar in his contract.
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If you're setting the bar at "He's not Patrick Mahomes", that's a pretty damn unrealistic standard.
Yeah, but the national media guys do it all the time.

Last year in the playoffs all I heard was that watson was just as good and would have all the same success.

All while they claim the only thing that saved patrick from being a bust is the genius of Reid (who wasnt considered a genius until AFTER mahomes got here) and the fact that alex smith taught him how to play quarterback.

By golly, if watson had that, he'd be the best ever.

I like watson, but he gets a pass other guys do not, and they spent a lot of time pretending he didn't have an all time great to throw at.
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