Chris Jones threatens to Hold Out

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Know the difference between 16 Million & 20 Million?

4 Million. That’s a Lot to leave on the table. It’s all relative.

Do it in increments he understands. Imagine you've got to stroke 20 hogs off but you only get to keep the juice from 16. Still feel like jacking those last four?

[HayWire]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Do it in increments he understands. Imagine you've got to stroke 20 hogs off but you only get to keep the juice from 16. Still feel like jacking those last four?

Wrong Hog

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

If he wants to be that greedy . **** him. I have no sympathy for anybody that will bitch about making more money in one year than I'll make in my lifetime. **** him and trade him to the Bengals and let him rot.

Originally Posted by Dante84

Know the difference between 16 Million & 20 Million?

4 Million. That’s a Lot to leave on the table. It’s all relative.

Originally Posted by Pablo

Do it in increments he understands. Imagine you've got to stroke 20 hogs off but you only get to keep the juice from 16. Still feel like jacking those last four?

Or imagine making 4 million more and not getting another Super Bowl, possibly dampening the hall of fame chances..... everything is relative. Works both ways

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Or imagine making 4 million more and not getting another Super Bowl, possibly dampening the hall of fame chances..... everything is relative. Works both ways

To clarify, it’s $4 Million per year.

So we are talking about $12-20 Million total.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Dante84

To clarify, it’s $4 Million per year.

So we are talking about $12-20 Million total.

Nobody is paying him that.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Nobody is paying him that.

The Colts are paying Buckner $21M per. I think Jones is fair to ask for at least $20M per, and there are absolutely teams who would pay him that.

We just aren't one of them, it seems.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Dante84

To clarify, it’s $4 Million per year.

So we are talking about $12-20 Million total.

And what’s he leaving in the table by holding out and not taking his franchise tag money?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Know the difference between 16 Million & 20 Million?

4 Million. That’s a Lot to leave on the table. It’s all relative.

Sure is if you're a greedy mother ****er! Be a team player and make 120 million over the next ten years. Think you can feed your great, great, great, great grandkids on that???

[Flying High D]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Sure is if you're a greedy mother ****er! Be a team player and make 120 million over the next ten years. Think you can feed your great, great, great, great grandkids on that???

Bets I would take for $10,000 Alex.

Based on his current decision making he won’t have any money for own kids. Bell lost so much money that he will never ever be able to recoup.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Flying High D

Bets I would take for $10,000 Alex.

Based on his current decision making he won’t have any money for own kids. Bell lost so much money that he will never ever be able to recoup.

Bell was franchised a second time and it was clear Pittsburgh planned on running him into ground and getting rid of him. IIRC, the long term contract they offered didn't have that much guaranteed. I would have sat out if I was Bell.

I think the league should get rid of the franchise tag. Teams have to use it to not be at a disadvantage, but it causes so much bad blood. Get rid of it and its still a level playing field.

RBs in particular get screwed by the tag.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Bell was franchised a second time and it was clear Pittsburgh planned on running him into ground and getting rid of him. IIRC, the long term contract they offered didn't have that much guaranteed. I would have sat out if I was Bell.

I think the league should get rid of the franchise tag. Teams have to use it to not be at a disadvantage, but it causes so much bad blood. Get rid of it and its still a level playing field.

RBs in particular get screwed by the tag.

The tag helps the majority of players who aren’t franchise quality because it helps keep the stars from eating up all the cap.

[PunkinDrublic]

I would hope Veach would learn from the previous regimes mistakes with Tamba, Justin Houston and Eric Berry. Losing Chris Jones will hurt no doubt about it, but if we want the Chiefs to be a dynasty we’ve got to be able to make the tough decisions and not let ourselves get tied down by these contracts for defensive players. Let the Jerrahs and other incompetent GM’s of the world do what bad organizations do. I love Chris Jones but we need to prepare for life without him.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

I would hope Veach would learn from the previous regimes mistakes with Tamba, Justin Houston and Eric Berry. Losing Chris Jones will hurt no doubt about it, but if we want the Chiefs to be a dynasty we’ve got to be able to make the tough decisions and not let ourselves get tied down by these contracts for defensive players. Let the Jerrahs and other incompetent GM’s of the world do what bad organizations do. I love Chris Jones but we need to prepare for life without him.

Careful people like dlphg9 will paint you a moron. Because he thinks money grows in an orchard and there is no limit to spending. The rules can be shit on that's how you become NE.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by srvy

Careful people like dlphg9 will paint you a moron. Because he thinks money grows in an orchard and there is no limit to spending. The rules can be shit on that's how you become NE.

We’ve got to be able to fall back on our organizations ability to draft and develop players. That doesn’t mean we become Green Bay and not spend money via free agency. We can spend money wisely to fill holes but I think Veach is smart to realize that you can’t let yourself get anchored down by bad contracts. Go get paid Chris nobody blames you.