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Old 04-06-2020, 05:36 PM   #2
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RB is a need too, the question that must be answered which one helps Patrick immediately. It could very well a RB and vice versa
RB is a major need, as are CB, LB and WR.

The drop off at WR is really bad at this point and even worse at RB.

The Chiefs have "bodies" at the LB position but they don't have that at the CB position.

Safety is a bigger need, IMO, than center because there's just not much behind Sorenson, Mathieu and Thornhill, who's recovery may last into the season.
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:53 PM   #3
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RB is a major need, as are CB, LB and WR.

The drop off at WR is really bad at this point and even worse at RB.

The Chiefs have "bodies" at the LB position but they don't have that at the CB position.

Safety is a bigger need, IMO, than center because there's just not much behind Sorenson, Mathieu and Thornhill, who's recovery may last into the season.

Damn skippy RB is a need, I've been pounding the table for one here and Twitter.

Those Twitter ****tards reacted to my feature back as need and if it's 1-3 round to protect Patrick do it tweet to it they reacted if it were a political post in the DC forum specifically the Seth Keysor followers.

No shit it gaslit at least 100+ posts.
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:57 PM   #4
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Damn skippy RB is a need, I've been pounding the table for one here and Twitter.

Those Twitter ****tards reacted to my feature back as need and if it's 1-3 round to protect Patrick do it tweet to it they reacted if it were a political post in the DC forum specifically the Seth Keysor followers.

No shit it gaslit at least 100+ posts.
Yeah, anyone that looks at this roster as it's currently constructed and says "Running back isn't a need" is a moron that should be ignored.
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:57 PM   #5
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RB is a major need, as are CB, LB and WR.

The drop off at WR is really bad at this point and even worse at RB.

The Chiefs have "bodies" at the LB position but they don't have that at the CB position.

Safety is a bigger need, IMO, than center because there's just not much behind Sorenson, Mathieu and Thornhill, who's recovery may last into the season.
Exactly how much do we need invested at the WR position? We have a top 5 group at the position and you think we're still lacking there? I'd be fine if someone falls to the 3rd or 4th and there's no better options. But I'd be highly skeptical of a WR in the first or second unless it's just an absolutely can't miss prospect. But I do agree runningback is a need, although I'd also hope we could find a decent talent in the 3rd or 4th.

The last I had heard was Thornhill was ahead of schedule and should be ready by training camp, but we'll see. I think a #4 safety can pretty easily be picked up in FA after the draft if need be. If we took a safety high in the draft I think it would have to be with the understanding that Mathieu walks after next year.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:03 PM   #6
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Exactly how much do we need invested at the WR position? We have a top 5 group at the position and you think we're still lacking there? I'd be fine if someone falls to the 3rd or 4th and there's no better options. But I'd be highly skeptical of a WR in the first or second unless it's just an absolutely can't miss prospect. But I do agree runningback is a need, although I'd also hope we could find a decent talent in the 3rd or 4th.
Watkins hasn't played 16 games in a season since his rookie season in 2014, let alone, 19, so yes, WR is a huge need, especially given that Robinson is on a 1 year deal and is a #4 at best while Watkins has one year left on his deal.

The Chiefs need to avoid the strategy they used in 2014, when they choose not to select a WR given their roster, then went 16 full games without a single TD catch from a WR.

It's a need and this is the year to grab at least one.

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The last I had heard was Thornhill was ahead of schedule and should be ready by training camp, but we'll see.
What? Ahead of schedule? What schedule? The dude tore his ACL on December 30th. The Chiefs will be extremely lucky if he's ready by Week 8 next year. ACL's normally take a year to fully recover and unless Thornhill's a freak of nature, he won't be 100% even if he's on the field early.


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I think a #4 safety can pretty easily be picked up in FA after the draft if need be. If we took a safety high in the draft I think it would have to be with the understanding that Mathieu walks after next year.
I don't think the Chiefs need to take a Safety before the 4th round, especially given they currently have 5 picks but it's sure as hell much more important than a center.

Again, unless the Chiefs trade back and add a few more selections, the pressure will be on them to get every pick "right" because they don't have any ammo in order to trade up or to miss on a few players.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:14 PM   #7
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Watkins hasn't played 16 games in a season since his rookie season in 2014, let alone, 19, so yes, WR is a huge need, especially given that Robinson is on a 1 year deal and is a #4 at best while Watkins has one year left on his deal.

The Chiefs need to avoid the strategy they used in 2014, when they choose not to select a WR given their roster, then went 16 full games without a single TD catch from a WR.

It's a need and this is the year to grab at least one.






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Come on, don't be dramatic... I will run across Arrowhead naked during a game until security or the honey badger tackle me if we lose all of our Wideouts next year and pat doesn't throw 15 TDS to WR with guys off the street. That is probably way too low...
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:22 PM   #8
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Watkins hasn't played 16 games in a season since his rookie season in 2014, let alone, 19, so yes, WR is a huge need, especially given that Robinson is on a 1 year deal and is a #4 at best while Watkins has one year left on his deal.

The Chiefs need to avoid the strategy they used in 2014, when they choose not to select a WR given their roster, then went 16 full games without a single TD catch from a WR.

It's a need and this is the year to grab at least one.
Ugh. That shit pissed me off so much.

I understood the Ford pick even though I didn't believe in the player. It was what it was. I remember liking the Philip Gaines pick somewhat, though I could be wrong.

However, we got to De'Anthony Thomas when we were rolling with Jamaal Charles, and it made me as livid as the day we drafted McCluster... again... when we had Jamaal Charles. We seriously took a RB to play WR in that incredibly deep WR draft?

I realize now we finally nailed the intent of what De'Anthony Thomas was supposed to be with the Tyreek Hill selection, but that still didn't excuse shit.

And while I'm more trusting of Veach, Reid, and all the creative directions they want to take the team, I'm still going to be slightly pissed if we draft some speed RB who can't handle 10+ carries a game out of the backfield, so instead we're going to line him up everywhere as a gadget guy, hopefully to turn him into a WR.

I reeeeeally hope those days are over
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:37 PM   #9
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Ugh. That shit pissed me off so much.

I understood the Ford pick even though I didn't believe in the player. It was what it was. I remember liking the Philip Gaines pick somewhat, though I could be wrong.

However, we got to De'Anthony Thomas when we were rolling with Jamaal Charles, and it made me as livid as the day we drafted McCluster... again... when we had Jamaal Charles. We seriously took a RB to play WR in that incredibly deep WR draft?

I realize now we finally nailed the intent of what De'Anthony Thomas was supposed to be with the Tyreek Hill selection, but that still didn't excuse shit.

And while I'm more trusting of Veach, Reid, and all the creative directions they want to take the team, I'm still going to be slightly pissed if we draft some speed RB who can't handle 10+ carries a game out of the backfield, so instead we're going to line him up everywhere as a gadget guy, hopefully to turn him into a WR.

I reeeeeally hope those days are over
That's why I despise the Speaks pick so much. He's a useless tweener like Turk McBride in the same way Thomas was as useless as McCluster.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:34 PM   #10
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Watkins hasn't played 16 games in a season since his rookie season in 2014, let alone, 19, so yes, WR is a huge need, especially given that Robinson is on a 1 year deal and is a #4 at best while Watkins has one year left on his deal.

The Chiefs need to avoid the strategy they used in 2014, when they choose not to select a WR given their roster, then went 16 full games without a single TD catch from a WR.

It's a need and this is the year to grab at least one.



What? Ahead of schedule? What schedule? The dude tore his ACL on December 30th. The Chiefs will be extremely lucky if he's ready by Week 8 next year. ACL's normally take a year to fully recover and unless Thornhill's a freak of nature, he won't be 100% even if he's on the field early.




I don't think the Chiefs need to take a Safety before the 4th round, especially given they currently have 5 picks but it's sure as hell much more important than a center.

Again, unless the Chiefs trade back and add a few more selections, the pressure will be on them to get every pick "right" because they don't have any ammo in order to trade up or to miss on a few players.
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020...training-camp/

Thornhill himself said he should be ready to go by training camp. So are you saying he's misinformed on his own injury?
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Old 04-06-2020, 07:11 PM   #11
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https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020...training-camp/

Thornhill himself said he should be ready to go by training camp. So are you saying he's misinformed on his own injury?
I think he's a player, not a doctor.



Expecting to "be ready" by Training Camp, barely 8 months after an ACL tear, is very, very aggressive and I don't recall the Chiefs ever having that type of a quick turnaround with a torn ACL.

Hopefully, he's ready but I wouldn't count on it at this point in time, which is why I listed it fifth in terms of draft needs.
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Old 04-06-2020, 07:29 PM   #12
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I think he's a player, not a doctor.



Expecting to "be ready" by Training Camp, barely 8 months after an ACL tear, is very, very aggressive and I don't recall the Chiefs ever having that type of a quick turnaround with a torn ACL.

Hopefully, he's ready but I wouldn't count on it at this point in time, which is why I listed it fifth in terms of draft needs.
We still need a backup safety tho. We have watts and sorenson but we need one more
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Old 04-06-2020, 07:32 PM   #13
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I think he's a player, not a doctor.



Expecting to "be ready" by Training Camp, barely 8 months after an ACL tear, is very, very aggressive and I don't recall the Chiefs ever having that type of a quick turnaround with a torn ACL.

Hopefully, he's ready but I wouldn't count on it at this point in time, which is why I listed it fifth in terms of draft needs.
Yep your right he’s just a player, you on the other hand aren’t either one let alone him so you haven’t a clue what’s going on with his body.
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Old 04-06-2020, 08:37 PM   #14
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I think he's a player, not a doctor.



Expecting to "be ready" by Training Camp, barely 8 months after an ACL tear, is very, very aggressive and I don't recall the Chiefs ever having that type of a quick turnaround with a torn ACL.

Hopefully, he's ready but I wouldn't count on it at this point in time, which is why I listed it fifth in terms of draft needs.
“They say I should be ready for camp. That’s always good news. But I feel like, for the most part, everything is going pretty well.”

I'm assuming "they" means doctors.
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:36 PM   #15
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RB is a need too, the question that must be answered which one helps Patrick immediately. It could very well a RB and vice versa

I agree. If you look at the way this draft shapes up

Swift
Dobbins
CEH

Akers

It looks like there will be a cluster of RB's going in the 2nd and 3rd who could make a difference and fit what we do.
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