***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

wtf

A woman in Springfield, Missouri has given birth in the toilet paper aisle at Walmart

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) March 20, 2020

Went to college in Springfield. Happens all the time.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

No one is saying that.

Uh, yeah you are. It didn't say 0 so the argument you and donger have made is it can't be 0.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by wazu

Went to college in Springfield. Happens all the time.

The **** it does.

But you know what does happen in Springfield all the time? Boogans passing out in alleyways between Chestnut and Downtown.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

We won't know that until they update, pete. That's been the whole point of this. Italy just updated and now we have numbers. It was blank before because they hadn't updated. Blank does not mean zero.

And once again I am not talking about Italy.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Uh, yeah you are. It didn't say 0 so the argument you and donger have made is it can't be 0.

Remember what I said about you and logic, pete? You're displaying it again.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Did you not see the CDC and WHO in my post. Google along with those two organizations will give you plenty of information.

I've not come across anything definitive. Best I found was a Business Insider article saying "two or three" out of twelve patients in Hong Kong exhibited 20-30% reduced lung function after recovering from COVID. It's a ridiculously small sample size and there was no mention of the reduction in function being permanent.

You also need to provide links for your other assertion. That's how this works. When you say something and someone asks if it's been proven you can't just say "Yes, it has". That's when you need to provide the info you found on the subject. The burden of proof is on you.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And once again I am not talking about Italy.

Once again, you're going there?



Do you think that that website has different criteria for reporting based on country?

[LiveSteam]

JFC. Its another Donger question session

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yes it has been confirmed by the CDC and the WHO.

And as someone that is stage 3 COPD I have spent countless hours on the internet looking for doctors or stories trying to disprove what multiple Pulmonologists have all told me, which is that the lungs do not repair their tissues that what most people think are the lungs repairing is just the phlegm leaving the lungs from stopping smoking or removing themselves whatever activity that caused the damage.

My sister got it and recovered in less than a week. No reduced lung function.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

My sister got it and recovered in less than a week. No reduced lung function.

Got COPD and recovered?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

My sister got it and recovered in less than a week. No reduced lung function.

You don't know that.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Once again, you're going there?



Do you think that that website has different criteria for reporting based on country?

Very well could ....

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Got COPD and recovered?

No, COVID-19. She's back out shopping today. Lives in Washington.

If you are young odds are your body will fight this off naturally.

Doesn't mean everyone should not be careful regardless of age.

[tk13]

BREAKING: Ground stop now in effect — all departures stopped — for JFK, LGA, EWR due to positive covid-19 tests. Other regional airspace sectors halted through key “gates” through NY air traffic areas. -Sources

— Jon Ostrower (@jonostrower) March 21, 2020

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by cdcox

The homeland security link I posted this morning indicates there is no reason to believe disease transmission will decrease in the summer.

Plenty of research suggests it is less contagious in heat and humidity. Given that’s the case for other diseases similar to it I don’t see any reason to doubt that research.