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Old 03-11-2020, 07:37 PM  
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:22 PM   #76
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Dude **** the flu and the flu vaccinne. I get the flu shot every year and I had the flu this year worse than I have had it in years. It's also one of the worse flu seasons we have had.

Influenza killed almost 62,000 people in 2018. This virus is no where close to that.

If we use your logic we might as well shut down everything every time someone get the ****ing flu.
So you think nobody should be doing anything about it and just let it spread? What's your endgame? We shouldn't try to contain it? I don't understand the logic behind these kinds of posts.

This thing has been around 3 months and is just starting to make it's way around the world. How do you know it won't kill more than the typical flu? It might not, but it might. We don't know. There is zero reason to panic and go buy a bunch of toilet paper. But why should you just throw your hands up and not try to contain it?

And that doesn't even get into the herd immunity issue.
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:28 PM   #77
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:28 PM   #78
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Dude **** the flu and the flu vaccinne. I get the flu shot every year and I had the flu this year worse than I have had it in years. It's also one of the worse flu seasons we have had.

Influenza killed almost 62,000 people in 2018. This virus is no where close to that.

If we use your logic we might as well shut down everything every time someone get the ****ing flu.
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:29 PM   #79
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Coronavirus is way more deadlier than the flu
Based on what I've read and the physicians with whom I've spoken, this claim is inconsistent with the relevant, available information on the subject.

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Old 03-11-2020, 10:32 PM   #80
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:34 PM   #81
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Dude **** the flu and the flu vaccinne. I get the flu shot every year and I had the flu this year worse than I have had it in years. It's also one of the worse flu seasons we have had.

Influenza killed almost 62,000 people in 2018. This virus is no where close to that.

If we use your logic we might as well shut down everything every time someone get the ****ing flu.
You probably had a cold.
Knowing you and your propensity for overreaction, it was probably a mild 24-hour sniffle.
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:35 PM   #82
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If as many people get Corona as there is that get Influenza each year, it might kill 500,000+ based on percentages.
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:35 PM   #83
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:36 PM   #84
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:39 PM   #85
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Based on what I've read and the physicians with whom I've spoken, this claim is inconsistent with the relevant, available information on the subject.

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I honestly hope you are right but when I read stuff like this it doesn't make me gain much confidence in that

"So what are the differences between coronavirus and the flu? For starters, there is no vaccine for COVID-19 and it could take many months or years to get one to market, and, unlike the influenza viruses for which there are several vaccines, humans have not built up an immunity over multiple generations. What’s worse, doctors fear the virus will mutate."

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Old 03-11-2020, 10:48 PM   #86
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Dear Sir Fax,

Have you read the latest information? Would you consider the opinion of the US government's top disease expert?

Coronavirus 10 times more lethal than seasonal flu, top health official says

The federal government’s top infectious disease expert told lawmakers Wednesday that the novel coronavirus spreading across the globe is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.

“I mean people always say, 'Well, the flu does this, the flu does that,'” Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said Wednesday during a hearing before the House Oversight and Reform Committee.

“The flu has a mortality rate of 0.1 percent. This has a mortality rate of 10 times that. That’s the reason I want to emphasize we have to stay ahead of the game in preventing this,” he added.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:00 PM   #89
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A great deal of the available data is coming from countries outside the US ... including China.

One shouldn't ignore that information, but it ought to be evaluated in context. For example, not only was China completely unprepared for the outbreak, once they discovered what they were dealing with, they botched their response in a variety of ways. It's reasonable to speculate that their data skews the problem negatively. It's also a reality that the US health care system is meaningfully superior to China's.

When it comes to America, at this point in time I'm more concerned with the effects of panic than the bug itself.

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A great deal of the available data is coming from countries outside the US ... including China.

One shouldn't ignore that information, but it ought to be evaluated in context. For example, not only was China completely unprepared for the outbreak, once they discovered what they were dealing with, they botched their response in a variety of ways. It's reasonable to speculate that their data skews the problem negatively. It's also a reality that the US health care system is meaningfully superior to China's.

When it comes to America, at this point in time I'm more concerned with the effects of panic than the bug itself.

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