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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

A couple of reminders...

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Old 03-05-2020, 07:43 PM   #811
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Knowingly travels to a virus outbreak and upon returning proceeds to suggests other people are being irresponsible. Okay then.
I don't trust anything anyone says on Twitter, honestly. Great platform for attention seeking.
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Old 03-05-2020, 07:47 PM   #812
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Well I know someone who knows someone who’s tested positive now. It’s a kid in San Francisco. The kid will probably be fine. But little kids coughing and sneezing all over the place is a scary vector. Stay safe out there.
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Old 03-05-2020, 07:48 PM   #813
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I’m glad the government finally quit lying to the public about being able to go to their doctor and get tested for the Coronavirus.

The CDC decides whether you get a kit or not. Right now, as of this afternoon late, there are 1.6 million requests for a test and around 50K test kits are available.

Do the math. Quit lying to the people. Quit wishful thinking. Quit spouting off BS. Just provide the facts. There is no reason for anyone to panic. Just tell them the ****ing truth.
I think each kit can produce 500 tests. There seems to be a lot of confusion on that.
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Old 03-05-2020, 07:48 PM   #814
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How goes the fear mongering? I'm not phased.
We're pretty rational in here, truthfully.
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Old 03-05-2020, 07:49 PM   #815
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Do people routinely not care if they give their elderly parent the flu? Seems like a self quarantine regardless which is pretty much my point. Whether or not you are tested is not really a reason to give someone else the flu.

That said, people with obvious serious symptoms and higher risks could benefit from testing but opening it up to anyone with a sniffle would be a bad idea. People already abuse the ER unnecessarily. This would make it way worst.
Yes people take the regular flu much less seriously than they would this. The regular flu is .1% fatal case rate. This is 10x to 20x higher. Maybe 5x if we're really lucky.
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Old 03-05-2020, 07:49 PM   #816
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I think each kit can produce 500 tests. There seems to be a lot of confusion on that.
Is that how it works? I feel super uneducated.
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Old 03-05-2020, 07:49 PM   #817
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Seems to me the time to have been proactive about this was probably a week before Wuhan was quarantined by the CCP. And that proactive measure would have been to completely shut down the USA from flights originating from across the Pacific and to isolate anyone who had been in China with a readiness to shut down all incoming international air travel.

But that would have just needlessly caused a panic, right?
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:08 PM   #818
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:12 PM   #819
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Do people routinely not care if they give their elderly parent the flu? Seems like a self quarantine regardless which is pretty much my point. Whether or not you are tested is not really a reason to give someone else the flu.

That said, people with obvious serious symptoms and higher risks could benefit from testing but opening it up to anyone with a sniffle would be a bad idea. People already abuse the ER unnecessarily. This would make it way worst.
If it turns out to be the flu, staying home is sufficient. If it turns out to be C19, then you want to, ideally, inform anyone that you have had close contact with for instance people you work with.

Tracking down contacts and testing/isolating them before they can spread it is the only way to really stay on top of it. You need a lot of testing for this approach to work.

The alternative is to treat it like the flu. This could result in many more getting it at the same time and overwhelming hospitals. But there is no way to exactly predict the outcome of a given approach.

So the choice becomes a political/social one based on incomplete information.
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:34 PM   #820
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Seems to me the time to have been proactive about this was probably a week before Wuhan was quarantined by the CCP. And that proactive measure would have been to completely shut down the USA from flights originating from across the Pacific and to isolate anyone who had been in China with a readiness to shut down all incoming international air travel.

But that would have just needlessly caused a panic, right?
that’s why you prepare it all up front before an outbreak. Masks, additional medical supplies stashed in say those KC caves. How are we going to ramp up a test? Who gets tested, quarantined? When do you stop travel? What’s the criteria?

No reason for us to panic. The government and medical professionals are just preparing for the next one. There is always going to be a next one so the supplies will not go bad like hoarding WWII cheese. Work with other countries to share information on what the strain is and how far it’s spread. Preparation isn’t rocket science nor should it be political.
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:42 PM   #821
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that’s why you prepare it all up front before an outbreak. Masks, additional medical supplies stashed in say those KC caves. How are we going to ramp up a test? Who gets tested, quarantined? When do you stop travel? What’s the criteria?

No reason for us to panic. The government and medical professionals are just preparing for the next one. There is always going to be a next one so the supplies will not go bad like hoarding WWII cheese. Work with other countries to share information on what the strain is and how far it’s spread. Preparation isn’t rocket science nor should it be political.
Masks don't do jack shit. Stop listening to the ****ing media.
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:54 PM   #822
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You’ve been able to get a senior discount for the last three years and it’s just now hitting you? 😁
I don’t self-identity with being eligible for senior-citizen discounts.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:01 PM   #823
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Masks don't do jack shit. Stop listening to the ****ing media.
the n95 type masks are for the medical professionals to protect themselfs while serving those affected by the outbreak.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:03 PM   #824
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More than anything, why are people going to the doctor for basic cold/flu symptoms?
Tamiflu requires a prescription and is only worthwhile if taken in the first 24-48 hours. It is reasonable behavior.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:12 PM   #825
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Tamiflu requires a prescription and is only worthwhile if taken in the first 24-48 hours. It is reasonable behavior.
That's pussy shit
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