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Old 09-14-2019, 01:58 PM   #2
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Cool.

I don't care who they've played. It's the way they're coached, the way they're built (lots of seniors and 4th year juniors), and how they've looked.

They could be an 8-10 win team.
Kstate has a winning coach. Hope it translates to FBS
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:03 PM   #3
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Cool.

I don't care who they've played. It's the way they're coached, the way they're built (lots of seniors and 4th year juniors), and how they've looked.

They could be an 8-10 win team.
Cool.

They're still mediocre.
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:12 PM   #4
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Cool.

They're still mediocre.
Tell me more about why Miss State "sucks ass" and why K-State is mediocre.
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Old 09-14-2019, 06:44 PM   #5
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Tell me more about why Miss State "sucks ass" and why K-State is mediocre.
They lost a lot of talent and went down about 7 levels of coaching quality. They struggled against Louisiana Layfette

If KState was facing a quality opponent, 3 turnovers would have sunk them. Lucky for them, mediocrity might get them a playoff bid at the rate this year is going.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:26 PM   #6
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They lost a lot of talent and went down about 7 levels of coaching quality. They struggled against Louisiana Layfette

If KState was facing a quality opponent, 3 turnovers would have sunk them. Lucky for them, mediocrity might get them a playoff bid at the rate this year is going.
Fair enough. Yeah I thought Miss State was beatable for that very reason. Trust me, I'm not thinking Miss State is that good. Still, they're bigger, stronger, and faster across the board than K-State. They still have several NFL prospects.

Maybe the turnovers would have sunk them, maybe not. I think that speaks to the quality of this year's team that they were able to overcome those turnovers, a turnover on downs on the first drive, dropped passes, missing starters on defense, cowbells/heat/road environment, etc to get the win.

K-State was picked to finish 9th in the big 12. If they finish like 4th that means they're a lot better than people thought.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:32 PM   #7
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Fair enough. Yeah I thought Miss State was beatable for that very reason. Trust me, I'm not thinking Miss State is that good. Still, they're bigger, stronger, and faster across the board than K-State. They still have several NFL prospects.

Maybe the turnovers would have sunk them, maybe not. I think that speaks to the quality of this year's team that they were able to overcome those turnovers, a turnover on downs on the first drive, dropped passes, missing starters on defense, cowbells/heat/road environment, etc to get the win.

K-State was picked to finish 9th in the big 12. If they finish like 4th that means they're a lot better than people thought.
9th in the Big XII would be really bad, and I don't think KState is anywhere near that bad. I think a lot of people were quick to shit allover them for how the coaching situation unfolded for them.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:56 PM   #8
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9th in the Big XII would be really bad, and I don't think KState is anywhere near that bad. I think a lot of people were quick to shit allover them for how the coaching situation unfolded for them.
Yeah I mean K-State has almost always been underrated in the preseason, unless they had a ranked team.

And yeah basically everyone thought losing Snyder would be a difficult transition when it was really a breath of fresh air.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:38 PM   #9
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They lost a lot of talent and went down about 7 levels of coaching quality. They struggled against Louisiana Layfette

If KState was facing a quality opponent, 3 turnovers would have sunk them. Lucky for them, mediocrity might get them a playoff bid at the rate this year is going.
I see... so Mississippi State is ranked 35th at Sagarin's ranking (http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm) and they're medicore?

FYI, this same ranking has K-State pegged at 23.

Granted, I'm sure that will change as the season goes along, but no way Mississippi State is Nicholls St or Bowling Green level.
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